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Fast Eddy - 08 Oct 2003 01:09 GMT
anybody know something about this plane?
bookneeeye - 08 Oct 2003 02:27 GMT
Do yourself a favor.  Got to www.spadtothebone.com print the plans for the
Debonair.  Just about the same amount of work involved, costs less and flies
better.

Boo

> anybody know something about this plane?
Frank - 10 Oct 2003 08:41 GMT
I agree, build a Spad. Of course, I'm biased. The main problem with
Duraplane was not the material, the design is simple and clever, durable and
easily and cheaply repaired. The problem lies in the fact that they just
didn't make the gosh darned wing big enough! The wingloading is too high, if
they had just increased the wing area to bring it down to 20 oz./sq. ft. or
lower, it would be a great flyer. How good? Build a Spad Debonair and find
out. www.spadtothebone.com . If you don't like the looks and are willing to
spend a little more time in the shop, build the Spadet.
> Do yourself a favor.  Got to www.spadtothebone.com print the plans for the
> Debonair.  Just about the same amount of work involved, costs less and flies
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> > anybody know something about this plane?
Efulmer - 08 Oct 2003 02:28 GMT
Yup it's a little heave and harder to put together at the field due to the
servo being in the top on the wing.  The rubber bands have to go under the
control rods.  I didn't know there was another fast Eddy.  But I've been fast
Eddie for years.  Have fun. Eddie Fulmer  AMA 63713
Robbie and Laura Reynolds - 08 Oct 2003 02:50 GMT
> anybody know something about this plane?

It's heavier than it should be, not as rigid as it needs to be, and
about as pretty as a toad taking a dump.  Generally it doesn't fly very
well, compared to a lot of other things that you could fly.  And it
isn't anywhere near as durable as advertised.

Other than that it's not bad.
Dr1Driver - 08 Oct 2003 12:05 GMT
>anybody know something about this plane?

The DuraCRAP is NOT a trainer.  It's too fast and too heavy.  It's also hard to
repair when you crunch it.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
BobAndVickey - 08 Oct 2003 14:02 GMT
>>anybody know something about this plane?
>
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>Dr.1 Driver
>"There's a Hun in the sun!"

That was my impression many moons ago when it first came out and I put one
together for the shop I was working for at the time. You think over the years
they would have improved the design. Of course here in Colorado we are a wee
bit above sea level and perhaps at sea level it might be a manageable trainer.
Anyone have experience with the duroplane at lower altitudes?

Bob Ruth
AMA 720565
Dr1Driver - 08 Oct 2003 17:06 GMT
>Anyone have experience with the duroplane at lower altitudes?

Charlotte, NC here.  It still sucks.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
John Alt - 08 Oct 2003 17:22 GMT
> >>anybody know something about this plane?
> >
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> bit above sea level and perhaps at sea level it might be a manageable trainer.
> Anyone have experience with the duroplane at lower altitudes?

No, it pretty well sucks at see level, or at least at 12' ASL. It's got
to be a real pig up in CO. It's my all time least favorite to train on,
followed by the Airmadillo. Build em to fly, not crash. If your trying
to teach yourself, go electric. There are many durable little electrics
that don't have enough mass to hurt themselves unless punched in hard.
Mathew Kirsch - 08 Oct 2003 20:48 GMT
> No, it pretty well sucks at see level, or at least at 12' ASL. It's got
> to be a real pig up in CO. It's my all time least favorite to train on,
> followed by the Airmadillo. Build em to fly, not crash. If your trying
> to teach yourself, go electric. There are many durable little electrics
> that don't have enough mass to hurt themselves unless punched in hard.

Wow, I had the complete opposite experience with both the Duraplane
and Airmadillos. We're at 666' MSL (about a mile from a small airport)
so it's not like we have special air that makes 'em fly differently.

The biggest problem with the Airmadillo is lack of wing area. They
drop like stones when presented with an engine-out situation.
Otherwise, I think Airmadillos fly fine, and IMHO make suitable
trainers for the PlayStation2 generation with good hand/eye
coordination. My fondest Airmadillo moment is when I brought one in
and landed it on the runway with no elevator control.

To my eye, Duraplanes don't appear to be flying any faster than any
other trainer, and they can be slowed right down for landing.
Paul McIntosh - 08 Oct 2003 20:55 GMT
I have not had the pleasure (!) of flying a Duratrainer but have seen them
fly.  They do seem a bit fast for a rank beginner and did land a lot faster
than something like a LT-40.

I HAVE flown an airmadillo!  It was just about the most awful handling thing
I have ever tried.  Maybe I am spoiled because I like the Kaos, Ugly Stick
and Ballistick type of plane.  I even liked the handling of my Top Flight
P-51 and P-40 (early versions) over the Airmadillo.

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Desert Sky Model Aviation
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com

> > No, it pretty well sucks at see level, or at least at 12' ASL. It's got
> > to be a real pig up in CO. It's my all time least favorite to train on,
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> To my eye, Duraplanes don't appear to be flying any faster than any
> other trainer, and they can be slowed right down for landing.
Mike - 08 Oct 2003 21:33 GMT
> anybody know something about this plane?

  It was what I trained on.  It is heavier than the norm trainer and
needs to fly a little faster because of that, but you can learn on it.
I have actually had mine in a mid air collision @ 40mph and it
destroyed the other guys plane, all I did on mine was bend back the
fuselage and put on a new wing.  You can train on it, and if you have
a tendency to pick things up quickly you should be fine.  I was able
to solo on it after 10 training flights.  I go back to it every now
and then to warm up my skills and it suits me just fine.
John - 13 Oct 2003 06:09 GMT
Hi Fast Eddy.
I learned on one 8 yrs ago. Some guys were skeptical about it because
of it's weight. I really didn't know how fast it was at landing, until
I flew another guy's trainer.  I still have it, and made a hand launch
combat plane out of it. It got hit a few times in the air. Only  minor
damage so far. It is not as fast as the other combat planes, but it is
durable.
John Y.

>anybody know something about this plane?
 
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