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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Air Models / October 2003Just watched TORA TORA TORA!!-Now i want a warbird..
WOW!! what a film... much better than pearl harbor and no love story OR benafleck or what ever his name is..NOW!! I want a warbird.... which kind of planes did the AMERICANS use in this film and for that matter what about the JAPANESE planes? are there ARF'S available? what about the corsair... I kinda like that plane too...Too much rain here today....no flying..:( thanks for the help.. Gig I had the joy of watching a lot of the filming from my office window just across the harbor at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard. My aviation band radio completed the picture allowing me to hear the chatter between the pilots. Their base of operations was Barbers Pt Naval Air Station. The planes that were shown being destroyed at Wheeler Field were replica P-40s, not the real things. The float plane on the tail of the Arizona mockup may have been a real plane. If it was, it was sad because there was a group in CT (I think) restoring a battle ship who needed one, but the film company wouldn't change anything since it was too late in the shooting and they didn't want to delay things. The Arizona mockup was built on some barges that were anchored in place. The destroyers were the real thing, however. Bruce Bretschneider formerly at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard, X31 > WOW!! what a film... much better than pearl harbor and no love story > OR benafleck or what ever his name is..NOW!! I want a warbird.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > thanks for the help.. > Gig In the film, the American warbirds were P-40s and the Japanese were Hollywood Zeros/Vals (T6/SNJ with a cosmetic change) No Corsairs at Pearl. Don > WOW!! what a film... much better than pearl harbor and no love story > OR benafleck or what ever his name is..NOW!! I want a warbird.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > thanks for the help.. > Gig Great Planes used to sell a Hollywood Zero, I can't remember if it was an ARF or not.  SignatureNormen Strobel nstrobel@zoominternet.nospam.net > In the film, the American warbirds were P-40s and the Japanese were > Hollywood Zeros/Vals (T6/SNJ with a cosmetic change) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > thanks for the help.. > > Gig As I recall it was a kit. But memory fades :-) I always watch Tora, Tora, Tora followed by Midway, So it has a happy ending :-) Pearl Harbor was too much a bad "Top Gun meets Flight of the Intruder in WWII" for me. They could have saved almost 45 minutes by doing away with the mock historical garbage. It is a fair trade my wife cannot sit down and watch Tora all the way though and I can't sit through Pearl. She hates docudramas most of the time and I hate Harliquin Romances passed off as Historical fiction. Speaking of great movies, I just picked up the 20th Ann. copy of The Right Stuff. Does anyone make or have plans for a X-1 slope glider or electric? The good old days of my youth when America's heros really were heros and one was proud to be an American. Put the spurs to her Chuck! Bob Ruth AMA 720565 >Great Planes used to sell a Hollywood Zero, I can't remember if it was an >ARF or not. A good movie if you like Spitfires is Dark Blue World, I liked it better than Pearl Harbor. SignatureNormen Strobel nstrobel@zoominternet.nospam.net > As I recall it was a kit. But memory fades :-) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Great Planes used to sell a Hollywood Zero, I can't remember if it was an > >ARF or not. thanks for the reply i will look for it..... pearl was a romance story with a lot of destruction... at the end... T T T was even better that PEARL.. >A good movie if you like Spitfires is Dark Blue World, I liked it better >than Pearl Harbor. I'll second that "Dark Blue World"....what a terrific film! "Pearl Harbor" turned to absolute crap after the funerals and stuff. And having the star make it all the way through to operational status being nearly illiterate due to dyslexia (sp?) is just dumb. They didn't even need that scene. John The first sour note in 'Pearl Harbor' was the opening scenes in a 30's Srearman biplane with self-starting which was totally misplaced in the early-20s time setting depicted (didn't the producers even have a clue, or did they presume aviation-savvy people are in the great minority?). If you could get past that, the romance fiction was at least tolerable and even 'tear-jerky' (ala 'Titanic'), and the graphics were great. Bill (oc) >The first sour note in 'Pearl Harbor' was the opening scenes in a 30's >Srearman biplane with self-starting which was totally misplaced in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >were great. > Bill (oc) Is it just me or did anybody also find most "Pearl Harbor" aerial motion *way* over the top - usually conflicting with the laws of nature? Must strafing runs be done 1 feet off the deck? (mind the prop!) I did see some 30G maneuvers being performed by contemporary (computer generated?) planes...nicely topped of by a bom-cam perspective. Great arcade stuff - reality is too slow apparently. Thora*3 was a lot better - I may be getting old :-) Give me a realistic movie any time. Like Star Wars. Signature- René My wife won;t take me to the movies any more! The special effects are just SO unrealistic (laws of physics, wrong time periods, etc) that it kinda ruins the movie for me. It's hard to shut off my brain when I enter the building. They ARE getting very realistic, though, in the visual arena. You really can't tell animation from reality any more. SignaturePaul McIntosh Desert Sky Model Aviation http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com > > >The first sour note in 'Pearl Harbor' was the opening scenes in a 30's [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Give me a realistic movie any time. Like Star Wars. Go check out a rather older one called Battle of Britain. They used virtually every flying Spit and Hurricane available for that one. SignaturePaul McIntosh Desert Sky Model Aviation http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com > A good movie if you like Spitfires is Dark Blue World, I liked it better > than Pearl Harbor. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- And every available Heinkle 111 then in flying condition. > Go check out a rather older one called Battle of Britain. They used > virtually every flying Spit and Hurricane available for that one. 'Mosquito Squadron' was another great movie. Bill (oc) If were doing a list, don't forget Twelve O'Clock High 30 seconds over Tokyo Memphis Bell Bob Ruth >Mosquito Squadron' was another great movie. > Bill (oc) And I saw parts of it being filmed, in Sussex, 1960s. I was very young, of course ;) SignatureDave S, Kuusankoski, Finland. My return address requires modification before use. > Go check out a rather older one called Battle of Britain. They used > virtually every flying Spit and Hurricane available for that one. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- Hi gang.. THANKS for allof the help.. Now all i have to do is track down some of these fine films... I thought that PH was just that... but i needed another opinion OTHER than a woman!! because you know what SHE said about the film!!On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 >And I saw parts of it being filmed, in Sussex, 1960s. I was very young, of >course ;) I just picked up a DVD of "Battle of Britian" at compusa from their bargain bin at 9.99. IIRC, "Piece of Cake" is pretty good, its a series from PBS, but kinda spendy if you want to buy it. Its a battle of Britain TV movie series, but naturally, is forced to use later marks of spits. John According to legend (maybe someone else can verify), in filming 'Thrity Seconds Over Tokyo', a large refinery fire was going on in Oakland CA, which was conveniently used as backdrop in a bombing-run sequence. Another great movie was 'Dambusters', except the explosion plumes at the damsites looked highly faked. Bill (oc) Bill, It's hard to get a real looking explosion in a 1/100 scale especially in the 50's ;-) Dambusters 633 Squadron Tora Tora Tora Midway 30 Seconds over Tokyo 12 O'clock High Memphis Belle (I saw a formation of B-17's near London when they filmed this movie-WOW!) Bridges at Toko-Ri Always Spirit of St Louis The Great Waldo Pepper Flight of the Phoenix All these are in my collection...some good, some great airplane movies! Don > According to legend (maybe someone else can verify), in filming 'Thrity > Seconds Over Tokyo', a large refinery fire was going on in Oakland CA, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill (oc) You Don't have "Tuskeegee Airmen"? Every collection need that one, too. > Bill, > It's hard to get a real looking explosion in a 1/100 scale especially in the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >>Bill (oc) Who is in that movie? Cuba Gooding and Denzel Washington? I think that was the one I saw...yeah, that's a good one too. > You Don't have "Tuskeegee Airmen"? Every collection need that one, too. For the gent who was interested in how they converted T-6s into Zeros, there was an in-depth article earlier this year in one of the magazines I subscribe to, but for the life of me, I can't recall which one! Perhaps Air and Space Smithsonian? Perhaps Skyways? Or it could have been a model magazine. Anyone recall? Cheers -- \__________Lyman Slack_________/ \______AMA6430 IMAA1564___/ \____Flying Gators R/C______/ \__Gainesville FL _________/ Visit my Web Site at: http://www.LymanSlack.com > > > > Hollywood Zero Nice collection, there, Don; I've been looking for 633 Squadron for a while. Cloud Dancer is another good one, even if it does have some of the R-word stuff in it. Ol' Curtiss Pitts hisself was in it. >Dambusters >633 Squadron [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Bill (oc) J.D. to e-mail, pull the post >Nice collection, there, Don; I've been looking for 633 Squadron for a while. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> >>> Bill (oc) I have always been kind of partial to The Blue Max. Dale >Cloud Dancer is another good one, even if it does have some of the R-word >stuff >in it. Ol' Curtiss Pitts hisself was in it. Only thing is, of course, it ain't WW II! J.D. to e-mail, pull the post thanks i'll check there next.. gig >I just picked up a DVD of "Battle of Britian" at compusa from their >bargain bin at 9.99. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >John Actually it was a Top Flite kit. I've seen them pop up every now and then in ebay. Don > Great Planes used to sell a Hollywood Zero, I can't remember if it was an > ARF or not. I built a Top Flite P-40 kit (60 size) and absolutely loved building the kit! It does not take too much skill to build. Only one tip for you: Don't use old radio equipment or your beautiful plane will crash on the 4th flight. Or at least that's what happened to me :( But the first three flights were great. The plane was very stable and the split flaps were awesome! I only wish I had a little more power than my 91 4-stroke for aerobatics. Hope that helps. -Jonathan- Thanks to all who answered.. i'm going to check my catolog now.. I knew there were no cosairs at pearl.. i was just thinking about that plane too. Gig..On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:29:10 GMT, GaijinGig <gig@i-2000.com> wrote: >WOW!! what a film... much better than pearl harbor and no love story >OR benafleck or what ever his name is..NOW!! I want a warbird.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >thanks for the help.. > Gig |
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