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Crashed My Magic 3D

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Pete Kerezman - 04 Nov 2003 19:30 GMT
 Maybe this'll help somebody to not get casual like I did.

 I spectacularly wrecked (repairable) my Magic 3D Sunday because I
failed to percieve that the flap switch was in the "landing" position
(which in this case was preset to up flaps, down elevator) prior to
takeoff.  I absentmindedly skipped that switch in the TX preflight, or
I bumped it when I put on the TX tray.  Whatever.

 My usual fun takeoff for this plane is to firewall the GMS .47, roll
two feet and go vertical, no problem.  But this time around... let's
just say it was an interesting two or three seconds.

 I now will mend my overconfident ways and prepare a switch checklist
for each model memory, to be used directly prior to take off.

Texas Pete
AMA 59376
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 05 Nov 2003 00:17 GMT
>  Maybe this'll help somebody to not get casual like I did.

Sorry to hear about your Growth Opportunity.  :o(

> ...  I now will mend my overconfident ways and prepare a switch checklist
>for each model memory, to be used directly prior to take off.

I use CATS:

    Controls: all moving well (last chance to catch a bad battery)
        and in the right direction (esp. ailerons & elevator).

    Antenna: fully extended.

    Trims: where they oughta be for that model.

    Switches: rates, takeoff mode.

It's easy to forget to go through the list or just to say the words
and not really look at everything.  But it's a start to have a plan.
"If I fail to plan, I plan to fail," more or less.

                    Marty
Pete Kerezman - 05 Nov 2003 13:56 GMT
>> ...  I now will mend my overconfident ways and prepare a switch checklist
>>for each model memory, to be used directly prior to take off.
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>    Switches: rates, takeoff mode.
                                      ~~~~~~~~~

 "Takeoff mode."  Now there's a concept.

Texas Pete
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 05 Nov 2003 16:18 GMT
>  "Takeoff mode."  Now there's a concept.

It's a switch on three of my computer transmitters.

I can set flaps & elevator for takeoff.

There is also a landing mode.  I can mix in throttle
settings with this, I think, so that raising the throttle
cancels the spoilers & elevator inputs.

I think I've taken off in landing mode because I use
a fairly gentle setting.  A more aggressive "spoiler"
would probably have held the plane on the ground,
as seems to have happened to the poor fellow who
started this thread.

                Marty
Ed Forsythe - 05 Nov 2003 15:49 GMT
Hi Pete,
Sorry about your crash :(.  I use B-SCAT
B = Check Batteries (Since this is a final pre-takeoff check I usually just
check the LCD on the Tx)
S = All switches in proper positions (give the Rx switch a final pull/push
to insure that is fully on).
C = Check *all* controls for proper movement (direction).
A = Antenna *fully* extended (pull to make sure).
T = Trims in proper position ( Since digital trims are becoming universal I
use this check to remind me that I have the correct model selected).

Tally Ho,
Ed

> >  Maybe this'll help somebody to not get casual like I did.
>
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>
> Marty
Average Heli Person - 05 Nov 2003 17:02 GMT
I use TEO-AMSIW-PAISC-BEAT-SYE

Turn Everything On And Make Sure It Works Properly And Is Set Correctly
Before Even Attempting To Start Your Engine.

I like it because it's nice and easy to remember :-)

John

http://www.heligenius.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
The Vail Family - 05 Nov 2003 13:58 GMT
Pete, sorry to hear about your mishap.

These days I mostly fly my heli's and a prestart routine is critical.  For
me, it's correct model loaded, all switches up and throttle down.

For those that don't know,  there are flight modes of a heli that result in
the throttle (collective stick) being at idle but the engine WFO.  One start
like that with a .90 will make you a believer.

Bill Vail

>   Maybe this'll help somebody to not get casual like I did.
>
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> Texas Pete
> AMA 59376
 
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