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Bob - 22 Jan 2004 05:25 GMT
My R/C transportation has changed from an old Ford Crown Vic (HUGE trunk and
back seat) to a Dodge Ram 1500 short-bed pickup.  The truck has a tonneau
cover and bedliner.  The bedliner is slippery as ice and I keep a hoe in the
back to retrieve things that have slid up against the cab during transport.
:-)

I'm wondering if anyone has come up with an inexpensive and effective way to
carry R/C airplanes in a set-up like this.  I was thinking of building a
grid of 2"x2" lumber that would slide in the back and provide some way to
keep things from sliding around.  Another thought was a large roll of
eggshell foam.  I don't know if either of those ideas would be practical.

Anyone using a truck/tonneau cover/bedliner to haul their airplanes?  What
do you use to keep things in place?

Thanks for any tips,
Bob Scott
Paul McIntosh - 22 Jan 2004 08:28 GMT
A friend had a setup like that.  He used an elastic cargo net (bungee cords
spaced about a foot apart) to keep everything from sliding around.  He came
up with the right arrangement so that nothing got damaged.

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Desert Sky Model Aviation
http://fly.mcintoshcentral.com

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Ed Neukirch - 22 Jan 2004 12:17 GMT
I have the same bedliner setup as you.  I made a simple "cross" from three
pieces of 3/4"  construction foam that fits the width and length of the
bedliner.  Shallow depressions at the right position secure the wheels.  A
small block of wood with a cup hook in each side is glued to the foam in the
vicinity somewhat  forward of the fin.  Several looped rubber bands secured
by the cup hooks hold down the fuse.  To load and unload the airplane I just
slide the cross partially out over the tailgate.  I usually carry my wing in
the cab.  This setup is simple and very secure.

Ed

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jjvb - 22 Jan 2004 14:03 GMT
I have a slick bedliner also.  Just got an old piece of carpet cut to fit
and nothing slides around anymore.

John VB

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James D Jones - 24 Jan 2004 22:45 GMT
One day, I had a 4X8 sheet of plywood in the pickup bed when I took my
plane to the field.  The rubber wheels were secured with rubber bands to
keep them from rolling.  The plane didn't move.  It's amazing how much
traction you get with rubber on unfinished wood.  Rubber bumpers on the
field box also keep it in place.

> I have a slick bedliner also.  Just got an old piece of carpet cut to
> fit and nothing slides around anymore.
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>> Thanks for any tips, Bob Scott
Baldone42 - 11 Jun 2009 03:44 GMT
I dont have a truck but I do have a tinny car (2008 Suzuki SX4 hatc
back) that I was able to get 7 planes in the back. I know if this wil
help but but I was ably to stack them. You may be ably to do somethin
like it just with out stacking

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MJKolodziej - 11 Jun 2009 06:04 GMT
Nice collention of planes.
mk

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> I dont have a truck but I do have a tinny car (2008 Suzuki SX4 hatch
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 Have you considered using a piece of 3/8" or 1/2" ply in the bed, then
attach screw eyes into the ply and use bungee cords to hold everything
down/in place ?

When I had my truck this is what I did to keep everything in place (I
had a cap on mine so I put small casters on the underside of the ply so
I could just drop the tailgate and pull the ply and the planes out)
MJC - 22 Jan 2004 14:05 GMT
I'm sure what kind of bed liner you have, but the one in my truck is deeply
ribbed (front to back) to allow water to drain out without getting things
wet.
The ribs are deep enough, about 1/2 inch, where I have the room to drill
3/8" holes into the sides of the ribs in various places around the liner
floor.
Then, I use bungie cords to tie things down for transporting.
Whenever I have the need to put holes in new places, I just grab my portable
drill and have at it.

MJC

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Ted Campanelli - 22 Jan 2004 17:30 GMT
On 1/22/2004 12:25 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:

One of the people at my flying field uses the following set up for his
pickup:

1 4'x8' sheet of 3/8" plywood.  On the underside he installed small
wheels (like they use for appliances - about 2" in diameter) with a
lever lock on the 2 at the tailgate end.  He then screws shallow drawer
handles and eye hooks where he needs to secure the various items and
uses rubber bands to hold everything in place.  The wheel locks keep the
plywood from shifting around and he just slides the unit out on the
tailgate for use.  He recently added 2 drop down legs so he can slide
the unit further out.  For the wings he has several sets of vertical
dowels about 1" in diameter covered with pipe foam insulation.

> My R/C transportation has changed from an old Ford Crown Vic (HUGE trunk and
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Bob - 22 Jan 2004 21:47 GMT
Guys,

Thanks for the excellent tips!

Good flying,
Bob Scott
Carrell - 23 Jan 2004 03:18 GMT
> Guys,
>
> Thanks for the excellent tips!
>
> Good flying,
> Bob Scott
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One more:
http://www.greenvillerc.com/images/members_pictures/hinton/plane%20carrier.jpg
My brother built this for me. I can drag it by one end to and from the
truck, and lean it against the garage wall for storage.  Little bungees hold
the wing still; the fuselage stays put without any additional hold downs, or
it can be rubber banded.  The total length of the bottom frame is longer
than the wing; that way the wing tips cannot bump either end of the bed.  I
do not have a bed liner, I got a thick (about 3/8") rubber mat from a truck
accessory place and it definitley helps prevent things sliding around.  I
have a fiberglass bed lid so nothing blows around.

I have to lengthen this carrier a little to fit my GP PT-60.  The Right
Flyer in the photo lost its tail and is out of commission for a while.

I'll probably build a similar one for my Astro Hog.

Carrell
Fred McClellan - 23 Jan 2004 04:38 GMT
<SNIP>

>I have to lengthen this carrier a little to fit my GP PT-60.  The Right
>Flyer in the photo lost its tail and is out of commission for a while.
>
>I'll probably build a similar one for my Astro Hog.

Interesting.

Looks like you could modify the bottom just a bit, and allow
additional cradles to be stacked and interlock with the lower ones.

Maybe try that in the new trailer, since I'm still trying to figure
out how I want to set it up  . . .
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
The House Of Balsa Dust
http://home.mindspring.com/~the-plumber
Carrell - 24 Jan 2004 02:37 GMT
With a trailer, or cab height topper, making them stackable would be great.
Since my lid is only a couple of inches higher than the bed, I can't do
that.
If I get more than two planes flyable at once, I'll need a topper or a
different hauling system.

I've looked at your web site, it has some good info.

Carrell

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jeffm - 24 Jan 2004 01:56 GMT
Hello,
Nice setup for toting your plane around….I noticed you had a big stik 60 in
the background. Have you flown it much? How do you like it? Anything someone
should watch out for with this plane? I am just about finished putting mine
together and am ready to take it up. I have the tower hobbies .75 engine. What
are you using?

>> Guys,
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>Carrell
Carrell - 24 Jan 2004 02:31 GMT
The Big Stik is my brother's.  It's the 40 size with Thunder Tiger 46 Pro.
He has been flying it for about 2.5 seasons.  He loves it.  He's bumped it
pretty hard a few times.  Once knocked off the horizontal stabilizer, easy
fix.  Once broke out the firewall; another easy fix.  The wing seems very
strong through rolls, loops, spins, etc at all throttle settings.

I bet your 60 size will be great.  The Tower 75 should be plenty of engine
for it.

Carrell

> Hello,
> Nice setup for toting your plane around..I noticed you had a big stik 60
in
> the background. Have you flown it much? How do you like it? Anything someone
> should watch out for with this plane? I am just about finished putting mine
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> >Carrell
Steve - 24 Jan 2004 06:09 GMT
Wholly plumbing nightmare Batman!
Steve

>>Guys,
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> Carrell
Charlie - 24 Jan 2004 15:01 GMT
LOL yes it was a "Holy Plumbing Nightmare"
I must have cut that thing apart 10 times to redesign it along the way.
The last time being after my wife came out and innocently asked "Are you
sure it will fit under the bed cover ?" DOH !

Regards,
Charlie

> Wholly plumbing nightmare Batman!
> Steve
jeboba - 22 Jan 2004 23:15 GMT
I have one of the huge Chevy Caprice station wagons...a 1994. A full 4 x 8
sheet of plywood will fit in the back. I use a 4 x 8 sheet of pegboard. You
can put the little hooks anywhere and bungee/rubber band stuff down. Works
great!

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Morris Lee - 22 Jan 2004 18:38 GMT
Had one in my old Toyota long bed pickup.  I had a cargo bar that I kept
about 18" to 2 feet from the tailgate.  I put my models in so that at least
one wheel would hook over the cargo bar.  It also kept the field box from
sliding to the front, and I used a bungee cord to keep it from sliding from
side to side.  My bed has hooks on the outside, BTW.   I found the soft,
snap-down tonneau cover to be a PITA.  I tried the egg crate foam and it
kept things in place, but the cover leaked and it became a soggy mess.
Hopefully, the fiberglass hinged covers are better.   I finally managed to
find a used bed cover (camper top) that I still use.  I clamp a couple of
carpet-covered 1x2s to the bed cover's rails to transport my planes.  I've
seen fliers make ingenious frames out of 2x2s to hold their planes that they
could slide out like a drawer that worked for them and kept their planes in
place.

Morris Lee

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David Moen - 23 Jan 2004 01:40 GMT
I came up with what I think is a good solution last summer.  I have an
Extra with a 66" wing that I cart around in the back of my pickup.

I cut a piece of plywood 24" wide and 68" long.  On the surface of the
plywood I mounted some small wooden "wheel chocks and a velcro strap
at the front of the airplane.  The velcro strap loops over the top of
the fuse aft of the cowl, and forward of the canopy.  At the back, I
glued a small block of high density foam and another velcro strap
(which loops over the top of the fuse forward of the fin) so that when
the back of the plane is strapped to the board, it is resting on the
bottom of the fuse, supported my much more square "footage" than the
tailwheel by itself.  Once strapped to this board the airplane is
really secure.  I then made a wing caddy with four peices of 3/4"
dowel attached to the board so that the wing sits up on its leading
edge along side of the airplane.  the dowels are padded with pipe
insulation and a couple of peices of foam glued to the board protects
the leading edge of the wing.  On the underside of the board, I
attached some small rubber/plastic furniture feet that I got from the
hardware store.  I mounted the feet so that they sat down into the
ridges of my bed-liner.

In use, this simple carrier prevents the plane from moving around in
the bed, and keeps other things that are sliding around from bumping
into the plane.

My final brainstorm on this one was to put a hole in each corner of
the board. now when I get home, I can slide the board out of the truck
with plane/wing safley attached, and hang the whole shooting match
from the wall in the garage, out of harms way!

Once I thought it up, it took about 45 minutes to build.  Works very
slick!

> Had one in my old Toyota long bed pickup.  I had a cargo bar that I kept
> about 18" to 2 feet from the tailgate.  I put my models in so that at least
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Fred McClellan - 23 Jan 2004 04:03 GMT
>My R/C transportation has changed from an old Ford Crown Vic (HUGE trunk and
>back seat) to a Dodge Ram 1500 short-bed pickup.  The truck has a tonneau
>cover and bedliner.  The bedliner is slippery as ice and I keep a hoe in the
>back to retrieve things that have slid up against the cab during transport.
<SNIP>

Other respondents have suggested several ways to deal with the
slippery bed liner.

The only thing I ever read about bed liners is that they don't
dissipate a static charge.

Several years ago someone blew up his truck, himself, and a
considerable portion of the gas station by filling gas cans while they
were sitting in the bed on a liner.

Believe that was written up in the MA safety column.

FWIW, as a new truck owner.
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
The House Of Balsa Dust
http://home.mindspring.com/~the-plumber
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 23 Jan 2004 04:34 GMT
I do not have a bed liner, but do have a tonneau cover.  I made a rack
from pvc pipe that supports 3 wings sitting on LE, and a section for
the fuselages.  I use small bungee cords to hold the fuselages to the
rack.

If you are interested, I can take and send you a picture or 2.

David

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Bob - 24 Jan 2004 22:38 GMT
> I do not have a bed liner, but do have a tonneau cover.  I made a rack
> from pvc pipe that supports 3 wings sitting on LE, and a section for
> the fuselages.  I use small bungee cords to hold the fuselages to the
> rack.
>
> If you are interested, I can take and send you a picture or 2.

Thanks for your offer David; I appreciate it.

I was thinking of a PVC pipe rack initially, but storing the thing would be
an issue.  Although I'm guessing it could be made without gluing certain
joints to allow flat storage....

Another issue might be suitability for different aircraft.  For instance,
one airplane I bring to the field often is a SIG Ultimate Fun Fly bipe.  It
stays assembled, so it wouldn't fit easily in a rack designed for
fuses/wings.  My other airplanes include very small and pretty large ones,
so I need a lot of flexibility.  I usually bring two or three airplanes to
the field at a time.

Right now, I'm thinking about a pegboard arrangement with some foam blocks,
bungees and lots of Velcro.... a combination of David and jeboba's
suggestions.

Fred, I'll keep the gas can thing in mind; thanks for the warning.  I can do
enough damage to myself and my airplanes without an explosion of any kind!

Thanks again guys for all the ideas.  I appreciate you taking the time to
share your experience.

Take it easy (and stay warm... the forecast is for -15 tonight here in
upstate NY),
Bob Scott
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 25 Jan 2004 23:54 GMT
I store mine standing on it's end posts beside the garage for now.  I
have considered a couple of hooks on the wall so I don't have to move
it when I mow.

David

>> I do not have a bed liner, but do have a tonneau cover.  I made a rack
>> from pvc pipe that supports 3 wings sitting on LE, and a section for
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David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 26 Jan 2004 00:02 GMT
Forgot that I already had some pics - I posted them at the binary
site.  The wing posts could be just pushed in rather than glued.

David

>> I do not have a bed liner, but do have a tonneau cover.  I made a rack
>> from pvc pipe that supports 3 wings sitting on LE, and a section for
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Steve - 24 Jan 2004 05:43 GMT
I took a scrap piece of masonite (paneling) and cut it to fit the area
behind the wheel wells back to the tail gate. Then I cut it in half
(back to front) and installed small hinges so I could fold it up
when not in use. Install small eye screws in to the wood so that you can
hook short bunji(?) cords or rubber bands to that will stretch over the
axels of your planes.
If I stagger the planes a little, I can fit about 3-4 planes across the
back of my truck. Works great and I have about 5 dollars invested in
hardware. I transport the wings inside the cab.
I if you need to see a pic let me know.
Steve B.

> My R/C transportation has changed from an old Ford Crown Vic (HUGE trunk and
> back seat) to a Dodge Ram 1500 short-bed pickup.  The truck has a tonneau
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