How's about coleman fuel. Has anyone run it in there gasser? I was thinking
about it and looked on the can. It says petrolated naptha. I don't rightly
know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
It can be used but the octane rating is very low I believe. It is supposed
to be unleaded gas without any of the additives needed for cars. Same thing
as white gas sold for lanterns, etc.
> How's about coleman fuel. Has anyone run it in there gasser? I was thinking
> about it and looked on the can. It says petrolated naptha. I don't rightly
> know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
Darren Earle - 16 Feb 2004 23:43 GMT
Naptha is a very volatile petroleum product used for lanterns and
pressurized coleman type stoves. If you like your looks, I'd suggest you
stay away from using it other than its suggested use. Someone once said
that ignorance is bliss...however in this case ignorance can be deadly. Be
careful with Naptha.
> It can be used but the octane rating is very low I believe. It is supposed
> to be unleaded gas without any of the additives needed for cars. Same thing
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> rightly
> > know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
Fubar of The HillPeople - 16 Feb 2004 23:51 GMT
From what I have heard, those additives are to slow down combustion. Might
not be good for ANY engine.

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> It can be used but the octane rating is very low I believe. It is supposed
> to be unleaded gas without any of the additives needed for cars. Same thing
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> rightly
> > know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
Pé Reivers - 17 Feb 2004 22:31 GMT
Lead additives to raise the octane value do slow down combustion as well. In
doing so, knock (explosive self-ignition) is prevented in remote combustion
chamber pockets in front of the flame pressure wave.
Slowing down combustion speed is not necessarily bad, as long as it is still
fast enough to finish the combustion process in time.
Ever noticed the long flames from Dragster Nitro engine exhaust pipes? That
mixture was still burning when the valves opened, yet provides ample power.

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> From what I have heard, those additives are to slow down combustion. Might
> not be good for ANY engine.
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> > rightly
> > > know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
Fubar of The HillPeople - 18 Feb 2004 00:10 GMT
Guess I worded it incorrectly. What I meant is that using fuel without those
additives might ruin an engine due to the pre-ignition.

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> Lead additives to raise the octane value do slow down combustion as well. In
> doing so, knock (explosive self-ignition) is prevented in remote combustion
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> > > rightly
> > > > know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer
Fred McClellan - 18 Feb 2004 03:31 GMT
>Guess I worded it incorrectly. What I meant is that using fuel without those
>additives might ruin an engine due to the pre-ignition.
Didn't see the start of this thread, but the originator might query
Maynard Hill on the subject of Coleman fuel in a model 2C engine.
TAM 5 seemed to like the stuff . . .
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Six_O'Clock_High - 18 Feb 2004 05:19 GMT
> >Guess I worded it incorrectly. What I meant is that using fuel without those
> >additives might ruin an engine due to the pre-ignition.
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> The House Of Balsa Dust
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Fred,
I strongly suspect that the fuel used by Hill was not straight Coleman but
something blended with the Coleman gas as its base. I have a pretty good
idea the oil used since local tests showed consumption figures of over 20
minutes per ounce of fuel over 10 years ago, but what else was used (if
anything) will probably remain his 'trade secret' for a while longer.
.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 18 Feb 2004 13:07 GMT
>I strongly suspect that the fuel used by Hill was not straight Coleman but
>something blended with the Coleman gas as its base.
That's what he reports, too.
> I have a pretty good
>idea the oil used since local tests showed consumption figures of over 20
>minutes per ounce of fuel over 10 years ago, but what else was used (if
>anything) will probably remain his 'trade secret' for a while longer.
I imagine. He's paid his dues--thousands and thousands of hours of
mind-numbing test flights. He didn't get the record without first
making sure his brew was true.
Marty
Fred McClellan - 18 Feb 2004 20:10 GMT
>> >Guess I worded it incorrectly. What I meant is that using fuel without
>those
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>
>.
Obliviously there was oil added, since Coleman lanterns/stoves don't
need lubrication.
http://tam.plannet21.com/FAQs.htm#fuel
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Bob Cowell - 17 Feb 2004 00:27 GMT
Going from memory here, (dangerous territory ;-) )
Naptha (spelled naphtha)
Is basically a solvent
or according to the dictionary
,
Any of several highly volatile, flammable liquid mixtures of hydrocarbons
distilled from petroleum, coal tar, and natural gas and used as fuel, as
solvents, and in making various chemicals
In other words, it could be almost any combination of "stuff"
It would burn, It might be ok, but,,,,
bob
>It can be used but the octane rating is very low I believe. It is supposed
>to be unleaded gas without any of the additives needed for cars. Same thing
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>rightly
>> know what that is. A fancy name for GAs maybe. Eddie Fulmer