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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Air Models / February 2008Need info on old Midwest "Mach 1" pattern kit
Hi all, I posted this on RCU also, so don't be upset if you read it twice! Here it goes: A friend just gave me a Midwest "Mach 1" pattern plane that he picked up at an estate sale approximately 10 years ago. I don't know how long it had been sitting prior to that. Basically, it is a .60 size, 62" wingspan pattern ship with Foam Core Wings and Stab. Unfortunately, there is only 1 sheet of plans with the fuse on it, and no instruction book or any directions on what to do with the foam wing, etc. It looks like it was started briefly, as the left and right fuse sides look assembled (albeit poorly). I'm not sure if all the parts are there, as I can't find a parts list! Does anyone know anything about this style of plane, such as its history, is it a good flyer, any characteristics, info on building, etc? Also, if anyone has access to the full set of plans and instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it would be a huge help! Top pattern plane late 60`s early 70`s. Valuable collectors kit if complete. I have a nib and a started mach 1 that I am going to sell along with 15 other kit -- bushpilotx lets see a list. mk > I have a nib and a started mach 1 that I am going to sell along with 150 > other kits > I have a nib and a started mach 1 that I am going to sell > along with 150 > other kits ------------ Please put my email address on your list for receiving THE LIST. <G> ecregger AT hotmail.com Thanks. Ed Cregger >Does anyone know anything about this style of plane, such as its >history, is it a good flyer, any characteristics, info on building, >etc? Also, if anyone has access to the full set of plans and >instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it >would be a huge help! Designed by Norm Page and flown with much success back in the early '70s. I may be wrong, but I think RCM did the plans. Worth a check with them. The airfoil was much slimmer than the standard for those days and the machine led the way into faster pattern planes. OTOH, I don't remember mine having any bad slow-speed habits other than those induced at the control sticks!!! I remember watching Norm make it look really nice. Good luck. HC I have a NIB kit in my basement. I willdig it out and run a set of plans for you as soon as I get some time(also the instruction book, if there is one). The one I had flew great at almost any speed. There was a lot of carving and sanding as I remember. I'll get back to you when I have the materials available. Ernie > Hi all, > > I posted this on RCU also, so don't be upset if you read it twice! > Here it goes: > > A friend just gave me a Midwest "Mach 1" pattern plane that he picked > up at an estate sale approximately 10 years ago. I don't know how > long it had been sitting prior to that. > > Basically, it is a .60 size, 62" wingspan pattern ship with Foam Core > Wings and Stab. Unfortunately, there is only 1 sheet of plans with > the fuse on it, and no instruction book or any directions on what to > do with the foam wing, etc. It looks like it was started briefly, as > the left and right fuse sides look assembled (albeit poorly). I'm not > sure if all the parts are there, as I can't find a parts list! > > Does anyone know anything about this style of plane, such as its > history, is it a good flyer, any characteristics, info on building, > etc? Also, if anyone has access to the full set of plans and > instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it > would be a huge help! "Lot of carving" is almost a misnomer...........you glue together about six big blocks of balsa and carve away everything that doesn't look like a Mach 1. Having said that, it was/is a great flying airplane and well worth the effort to build. > I have a NIB kit in my basement. I willdig it out and run a set of plans > for you as soon as I get some time(also the instruction book, if there is [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > instruction manual, and is willing to make me a set or sell them, it > > would be a huge help! Ernie, Thanks alot for your help! I sent you an offline email... Thanks to everyone else as well! > I have a NIB kit in my basement. I willdig it out and run a set of plans > for you as soon as I get some time(also the instruction book, if there is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'll get back to you when I have the materials available. > Ernie Dear friends I will pay for a set of mach one pattern plane plans design by Norm Page, Thanks Car -- mach > Dear friends I will pay for a set of mach one pattern plane plans > design by Norm Page, Thanks Carl I had the Midwest kit of this model in 73 or 74. The only thing that I didn't care for was the wood fuselage instead of a fiberglass fuselage. I couldn't afford the matching Super Tigre G60 Bluehead and Rhom-Air landing gear, so I sold it. Such was the life of a musician in those days. Most of my money went to music equipment back then. Sure wish I had that kit today. It was a really beautiful model. Ed Cregger mach 1 Wrote: > Dear friends I will pay for a set of mach one pattern plane plans > design by Norm Page, Thanks Carl I now have the plans for the mach one, and can see why it may not have stayed in production- so many big blocks of wood, and so much carving, you would think you had a roast turkey to carve up when you get it all together, I,m going to build it anyway -- mach mach 1 Wrote: > I now have the plans for the mach one, and can see why it may not > have stayed in production- so many big blocks of wood, and so much > carving, you would think you had a roast turkey to carve up when you > get it all together, I,m going to build it anyway. If anyone out there has a parts list made up I will pay for it. Car -- mach I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models. The Mach 1 was a beauty. I wish I still had the kit that I never put together back in the seventies. Now I have the G60 Bluehead that would have been perfect for it. Ed Cregger > mach 1 Wrote: >> I now have the plans for the mach one, and can see why it may not >> have stayed in production- so many big blocks of wood, and so much >> carving, you would think you had a roast turkey to carve up when you >> get it all together, I,m going to build it anyway. If anyone out > there has a parts list made up I will pay for it. Carl > I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ed Cregger I kinda enjoy carving also, although carving out the cowl of a Kadet Senior, or even the back, cowl, and cheek of a Kaos, is far lass dauting. One thing I like is that balsa is easy to whittle, easy to sand, and with an aircraft you can just smooth out your mistakes and most of the time its not enough to notice, or if it is you can say you "modified" the design. >> I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > time its not enough to notice, or if it is you can say you "modified" > the design. In that same vein, I "modified" all of my models. Few ever turned out stock, even when I tried really hard to duplicate the designer's efforts accurately. The Mach I was the true transition aircraft from the old fixed gear Kaos/Kwik Fli planes to sleek, retract gear equipped models. The Super Kaos was mostly built with fixed gear, although it was Joe's attempt at jumping into retract gear. Ed Cregger >> I enjoy carving the most of any aspect of building models. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >time its not enough to notice, or if it is you can say you "modified" >the design. But back then, I didn't have a Dremel with a 1/2" carbide ball or 1/4" carbide cylinder. Those things can hog out the balsa faster than anything! With a Dremel and a couple of tools, the big balsa blocks are shaped in a hurry. Only, you'd better not do it inside or facing upwind. Use goggles and mask...even if you've never been at all allergic to balsa dust. Ken > But back then, I didn't have a Dremel with a 1/2" carbide ball or 1/4" > carbide cylinder. Those things can hog out the balsa faster than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Only, you'd better not do it inside or facing upwind. Use goggles and > mask...even if you've never been at all allergic to balsa dust. For Christmas last year I got a new Dremel XPR with the planer attachment. It's wonderful for shaping. Cuts fast but won't gouge. Dave >> But back then, I didn't have a Dremel with a 1/2" carbide ball or 1/4" >> carbide cylinder. Those things can hog out the balsa faster than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >For Christmas last year I got a new Dremel XPR with the planer attachment. >It's wonderful for shaping. Cuts fast but won't gouge. Thanks...won't there be another one of those Christmas things this year? I will remember this. Ken |
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