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Need 4 ch transmitter schematic

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Elias - 01 Apr 2004 22:42 GMT
I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
so far, but eager to learn while building my own receiver, ESC's and
transmitter for a rather complex project. The receiver I had very
little trouble finding schematics for - a good looking ESC was even
easier. But so far I have not seen any transmitter diagrams on the
web.
I would like a good four channel (at least) PWM transmitter (as this
is the modulation the reciever and ESC's use), which is not powered by
a programmable microprocessor. Any ideas, other than buying one (for
money I could spend on steel)?

Elias
The Natural Philosopher - 01 Apr 2004 22:50 GMT
> I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
> so far, but eager to learn while building my own receiver, ESC's and
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> a programmable microprocessor. Any ideas, other than buying one (for
> money I could spend on steel)?

NOt using a microprocessor eh?

How much time and money do you want to spend with triangle generators
and comparators and the like :-)

Or perhaps halfway house with up down counters and a few A to D
convertors on the sticks?

> Elias
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 03 Apr 2004 05:08 GMT
TNP, I think you are old enough to know better than what you said
about " triangle generators and comparators and the like" or " Or
perhaps halfway house with up down counters and a few A to D
convertors on the sticks?"

The 1970 Heathkit GD-19 I built had a 2 transistor multivibrator to
generate the frame rate, and each channel pulse was generated by
simple R-C circuit one-shot multivibrators.

David


>> I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
>> so far, but eager to learn while building my own receiver, ESC's and
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>> Elias
The Natural Philosopher - 03 Apr 2004 09:12 GMT
> TNP, I think you are old enough to know better than what you said
> about " triangle generators and comparators and the like" or " Or
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> David

Eh? what do you think a one shot multivibrator is if not a triangle
generator and a comparator...you just have to look at the internal
waveforms and see...

As far as teh updown counters go, its a perfectly valid way to do it,
and would be fairly simple to implement in the sort of SSI logic which
is more or less all we had in the 70's.

But when you can get a PIC with A to D and all teh logic needed on it
for $2.50 or wahtever, its seems strange to use teh analog route.

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>>>Elias
Elias - 03 Apr 2004 23:35 GMT
> > TNP, I think you are old enough to know better than what you said
> > about " triangle generators and comparators and the like" or " Or
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> >>
> >>>Elias

Cheers mate! I'll just email you my home address, and you can buy,
program and FedEX me those PIC's - free of charge, right? :D

As I don't own a PIC programmer myself, and I wouldn't know how to use
one, I'd say my best shot would be to build me one of those expensive,
inaccurate, bulky, prehistoric analogue transmitters using previous
century technology.
So if you're not interested in sending me those microprocessors, maybe
you are in possession of a diagram of an old kickass transmitter, hm?
:)
Olivier tx2tx - 02 Apr 2004 09:42 GMT
"Elias" <larsson.elias@telia.com> wrote :
> I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
> so far, but eager to learn while building my own receiver, ESC's and
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>
> Elias

Hi,

Perhaps this helps :
http://mp8000.rcclubs.com/
http://www.mstar2k.com/

Have also a long at Alan Tong's websit,  possible you'll find more links :
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/  :
directory to 000's of Radio Control Aircraft, Yachts, Boats, Cars, Plastic
and Resin Kitset modelling web sites. Many RC FAQ, Modelling and RC
Construction articles, Model and RC related Manufacturers and Retailers
sites. "

Olivier
Signature

http://users.belgacom.net/TX2TX : buddy box compatibility problems between
different brands of RC-transmitters.
To answer, remove "nopub" from tx2tx@belgacomnopub.net

Elias - 03 Apr 2004 23:41 GMT
> "Elias" <larsson.elias@telia.com> wrote :
> > I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
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> Olivier

Thank you, Olivier, for those links.
Provided I am given the sufficient time to go through it all, I am
sure I'll find something useful. :)
Daniel - 03 Apr 2004 22:00 GMT
Well,
Building and understanding Tx/Rx gear is also a funny part of our
hobby.  Period. But be aware that you MUST stick to your local
regulations for RF radiation and accreditation. Ignoring that can lead
to big, really very big problems that could include your
responsability for injury or death. Disturbing an emergency service is
not a joke. Loss of control from a homebuild gear not more. Knowing
that you may want to make a Google search on "signetics NE5044" to
learn encoder and try to have RF section from another source. You can
also approach Ham-radio clubs. It's up to you. One source is to buy
some used Tx in your local hobby shop or club. I still think that the
best way is to buy approved basic Tx/Rx gear (really not expensive)and
take time for the real project.

Have fun,Fly safely
Daniel

> I am relatively new to electronics, not dealt with digital circuitry
> so far, but eager to learn while building my own receiver, ESC's and
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> Elias
 
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