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> Eddie
Sounds as if it's running on the fuel that you shoot into the exhaust
port and then dying because it's not drawing fuel through the venturi.
You can disassemble the tank and make sure that the pickup tube is
attached to the needle valve nipple and that the tube is pointing down
to the bottom of the tank. Some engines that have been sitting around
for years have hard, cracked pickup tubes. Also make sure that the tank
has a good seal. If it's leaking fuel from the back that could mean
that all the fuel is gone by the time you get it to start, and then it
just quits.
The general procedure for starting a cox reed valve engine is to prime
and start, prime and start, prime and start, until the fuel gets sucked
up the pickup tube and into the venturi and it will continue to run for
more than a second or two. Once you learn this procedure you may find
yourself priming and starting for half an hour without even thinking
about it if there is a problem. If everything is in order it should
take only 2 to 5 times on a Pee Wee. I can usually get my Black Widow
and Texaco to run after only 2 starts at the beginning of the day.
One thing that I like to do when I'm having trouble is to pressurize the
tank to prime the pickup tube and venturi. After you fill the tank and
the fuel starts to come out the breather hole, cover the breather hole
and shoot a bit more fuel into the tank. The fuel will be forced up the
pickup tube and into the venturi. If you remove the needle valve and do
this, you can see the fuel ooze out of the needle valve hole. Then when
the engine first fires up, it will be more likely to run because it's
already drawing fuel.
If you do all of this and still can't get it to continue running, then
you likely have a blockage in the fuel line or venturi. You may also
want to check the reed valve to make sure that it isn't stuck in the
open position or in the closed position. Either way will make it not
run. If you suspect right now that your problem may be a result of your
engine sitting around and getting gummy and dirty for a few years, maybe
you should start by disassembling everything, washing it in a small
container of fresh fuel (use the cheap stuff or denatured alcohol from
the hardware store) and putting it together nice and clean.
Let us know what happens.
bitcode - 04 Apr 2004 21:13 GMT
Well Look at that...
I took the 020 off the 2x4 last night in defeat. I assumed that the
gas was leaking out from the back through the little screen vent back
there, but no. I filled the tank unattached to find the leak and it
is coming from the lower right screws back there.
I have never taken an engine apart before and I am a little
apprehensive to dive in unassisted. Honestly there were a lot of
parts that you mentioned in your post that I didn't know. Like,
venturi, pickup tube i don't know what they are. But the tank is
leaking, so I have to get that stopped.
Thanks,
Eddie
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Robbie and Laura Reynolds - 04 Apr 2004 21:30 GMT
> Well Look at that...
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> venturi, pickup tube i don't know what they are. But the tank is
> leaking, so I have to get that stopped.
Maybe you could just snug the screws and it would stop leaking. If the
screw is loose, then the joint between the crankcase and tank is
probably loose as well. If that's not sealed then it can't draw fuel.
Try tightening everything and see if it will run. Just make sure you
don't overtighten it. It's pretty easy to break those little screws.
James D Jones - 04 Apr 2004 22:21 GMT
> Well Look at that...
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> I took the 020 off the 2x4 last night in defeat. I assumed that the
> gas was leaking out from the back through the little screen vent back
> there, but no. I filled the tank unattached to find the leak and it
> is coming from the lower right screws back there.
There should be a gasket between the tank and the engine. I'll bet that
it is missing.
Jim - AMA 501383 (remove NOSPAM to reply)
bitcode - 05 Apr 2004 04:47 GMT
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> Jim - AMA 501383 (remove NOSPAM to reply)
I GOT IT STARTED!!
The problem is in the back screw still though. All the fuel was
leaking out of it right there. I filled the hole with some metal
cement. It worked to stop the leak for a minute, but it looks like
the cement melts away after three of four tanks. I will have to come
up with a gasket of some kind.
Kind of disappointed in COX or Estes, whoever they are. The engine is
brand new out of the box and broken. I could send it back for a
replacement but that is a pain. Oh well. I will find a gasket or
make one.
Thanks for your help.
Eddie
M Dennett - 05 Apr 2004 14:53 GMT
If you mean it is leaking through where one of the four tank retaining bolts
recesses into the backplate.. it may just be a seal problem, however it is
very easy to crack the backplate in that area by overtightening of the
screws. Been there, got the t-shirt etc. Watch your torque - snug for a 2-56
bolt (I think they're 2-56, I'm not clutching a Pee Wee at the moment) ain't
the same as for a 6-32! Just a cautionary note, that's all. You would not be
the first person with this problem.
Mike D.
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> Eddie