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COMM POST: Futaba 7C review now on RC Power!

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AMCross - 08 Apr 2004 04:12 GMT
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A detailed review of the new 7C, including in depth comparisoin to the
9C, 6XAS, and JRs 6102, now available, plus several video clips of acro
and heli programming for the 7C!

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James D Jones - 11 Apr 2004 19:51 GMT
Right.  In it in you mention that the 9C is now available with a
synthesized module.  I didn't find one when searching for it at
Tower Hobbies.  Where can you buy one?

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Doug McLaren - 11 Apr 2004 22:16 GMT
| Right.  In it in you mention that the 9C is now available with a
| synthesized module.  I didn't find one when searching for it at
| Tower Hobbies.

You know, that's a fine question.  I've heard that a module would be
available some time in Feburary or March ... but now it's April, with
no module in sight.

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jeboba - 12 Apr 2004 00:37 GMT
I'm using a Hitec Spectra module in my 9C with great success.

> | Right.  In it in you mention that the 9C is now available with a
> | synthesized module.  I didn't find one when searching for it at
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James D Jones - 12 Apr 2004 16:12 GMT
Many do.  But, be forewarned that the AMA Technical Director,
Steve Kaluf has warned AMA members that such use is illegal.
AMA insurance might not pay in event of an accident.  I have
verified that Hitec also does not endorse such use.

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> I'm using a Hitec Spectra module in my 9C with great success.
>
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>> be available some time in Feburary or March ... but now it's April,
>> with no module in sight.
jeboba - 12 Apr 2004 16:49 GMT
Yep, I am aware of that.

> Many do.  But, be forewarned that the AMA Technical Director,
> Steve Kaluf has warned AMA members that such use is illegal.
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> >> be available some time in Feburary or March ... but now it's April,
> >> with no module in sight.
James D Jones - 14 Apr 2004 15:36 GMT
Then, perhaps you should have mentioned it in your post.  Are you
encouraging others to join you in an illegal activity?

Jim - AMA 501383 (remove NOSPAM to reply)

> Yep, I am aware of that.
>
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>>>>be available some time in Feburary or March ... but now it's April,
>>>>with no module in sight.
kodi - 15 Apr 2004 02:10 GMT
Illegal!!??
I too have a 9C and have used a friends Spectra module in the radio.  I also
know that if I am involved in some type of "incident" the AMA may not choose
to cover me so I don't use the module anymore.  However I don't understand
why you would call this illegal.  Unsupported and not recomended (by AMA)
yes, but illegal?

> Then, perhaps you should have mentioned it in your post.  Are you
> encouraging others to join you in an illegal activity?
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> >>>>be available some time in Feburary or March ... but now it's April,
> >>>>with no module in sight.
David Hopper - 15 Apr 2004 10:41 GMT
>Illegal!!??
>I too have a 9C and have used a friends Spectra module in the radio.  I also
>know that if I am involved in some type of "incident" the AMA may not choose
>to cover me so I don't use the module anymore.  However I don't understand
>why you would call this illegal.  Unsupported and not recomended (by AMA)
>yes, but illegal?

Probably referring to the fact that the FCC doesn't like someone
making modifications to a transmitter unless they are properly
licensed to do so..

 
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C.O.Jones - 15 Apr 2004 10:41 GMT
> Illegal!!??
> I too have a 9C and have used a friends Spectra module in the radio.  I also
> know that if I am involved in some type of "incident" the AMA may not choose
> to cover me so I don't use the module anymore.  However I don't understand
> why you would call this illegal.  Unsupported and not recomended (by AMA)
> yes, but illegal?

Makes the AMA sound more like the "Big Brother" many imagine them to be
(including themselves).

This has been discussed on many forums and the only things that can really
be agreed on is:
The manufacturers do not recommend it but why would they?  Makes sense that
they would want you to use their modules and not someone else's.  Plus to
recommend a another module, as manufacturers they would have to cough up for
the testing/certification of that particular configuration.  And be able to
provide documentation supporting their conclusions.  Cheaper to just say
"no"!
The AMA does not approve of it.  Probably because of the lack of testing and
endorsement by the manufacturers more than anything else.

But is it OK according to FCC rules?  That can generate a lot of opinions.
James D Jones - 15 Apr 2004 16:42 GMT
This combination has not been certificated for use by the FCC.  To be
legal, that is required.  I took your position for a long time.  Steve
Kaluf's position was supported by the AMA legal staff, and I have been
convinced that certification is possible only if both Hitec and Futaba
agree to jointly do it.  They haven't, and they won't, as is evidenced
by the upcoming release of a Futaba module for the 9C.

Jim - AMA 501383 (remove NOSPAM to reply)

> Illegal!!?? I too have a 9C and have used a friends Spectra module in
> the radio.  I also know that if I am involved in some type of
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>>>>>>> with a synthesized module.  I didn't find one when
>>>>>>> searching for it at Tower Hobbies.
 
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