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Dean - 28 Jul 2003 00:13 GMT
I would like to get a flying wing, but am not sure which one to go
with.  I have read a lot about the Zagi 400 and Windrider Ele-Bee.  I
would need everything including radio and charger.  The problem is
that I need it to be at a price I can convince my wife is acceptable.
I have seen packages for about $250, but I am going to need to get it
below $150.  I am open to buying used.  I have found a few wings on
Ebay but am not sure if I would be better getting it all in one
package.  I am new to wings, so buying it in parts concerns me as I do
not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
Morris Lee - 28 Jul 2003 13:40 GMT
Do you have any RC flying experience?  If not, flying wings may not be the
best thing to learn on.  I, too, love flying wings, but I'm glad I learned
on conventional trainers.  Flying wings are neat planes, but they have some
quirks.  Swept, tapered wings (like the Zagi) tip stall if you get them too
slow.  Also, a flying wing is stealthy.  The lack of a fuselage and tail
makes them hard to see, especially looking straight on, like when you land.
On the up side, my Zagi has taken abuse that would've turned conventional
models into toothpicks.  The only thing that breaks is the plastic canopy.
I've seen Zagi combos as cheap as $185.  I have no experience with the
Ele-Bee. I fear you're going to be hard pressed to find a new flying wing,
radio gear and charger for $150 or less.

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morris.lee@verizon.net
> I would like to get a flying wing, but am not sure which one to go
> with.  I have read a lot about the Zagi 400 and Windrider Ele-Bee.  I
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> not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
> really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
jeboba - 28 Jul 2003 17:33 GMT
I disagree completely about starting a newbie on a Zagi. It's a great
training platform because they are almost indestructible and are easy to
fly. Yes, they will stall but so what? It keeps you on your toes.
Conventional trainers instill too much confidence in my opinion.

I totally agree that $150 isn't going to get you a ready to fly zagi or
ele-bee unless you find one at a swap meet or something. The Zagi 400X
(Don't get the regular 400!) is $140. A radio that will work is $100, and
then you need a good charger which is anywhere from $70-110.

> Do you have any RC flying experience?  If not, flying wings may not be the
> best thing to learn on.  I, too, love flying wings, but I'm glad I learned
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> > not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
> > really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
Brian Gaither - 29 Jul 2003 23:29 GMT
Your best bet for finding a setup for $150 is to buy used.  As
previously posted by someone else, by the time you add up the cost of
the plane, radio, and charger, it's way over.  Remember that the radio
you buy will need to have mixing capablities in order to get the
flying wing surfaces to move properly.  Also, make sure you get all of
these items in the package:  plane, motor, prop, speed control,
battery, radio (transmitter, receiver, 2 servos), charger.

If you are looking for something to fly in your backyard/schoolyard
and want to do some mild aerobatics, take a look at the Aerobird.  For
the complete setup, it is right at $150 and is a ball to fly.  Read
more at:

http://www.redshangarone.com/mall/products/hobby_zone/hbz6000.asp

Brian Gaither
Red's Hangar One
www.redshangarone.com

> I would like to get a flying wing, but am not sure which one to go
> with.  I have read a lot about the Zagi 400 and Windrider Ele-Bee.  I
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> not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
> really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
Offenbecher - 31 Jul 2003 15:24 GMT
You might like to take a look at the following web site. This is a delta
wing electric that uses a gws park flyer motor and electonics system,
servos, ect. I purchased one early this summer and what a ball to fly, will
handle mild winds, loops, inside, outside, rolls with a very stable
airframe, flys slow or fast and getting 8 to  10 minutes flight time on an
8.4 volt 280ma battery, easy and fast build, excellant instructions. This is
my # 1 electric of all the others i have tried. usually finish my flying day
with this fun delta wing. Take a look and see.
http://www.lynchshanger.com/E-ForceDelta.htm
> Your best bet for finding a setup for $150 is to buy used.  As
> previously posted by someone else, by the time you add up the cost of
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> > not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
> > really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
Brian Gaither - 31 Jul 2003 22:39 GMT
That looks like a cool little airplane.  I just might have to get me one of
those.

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Brian Gaither
Red's Hangar One Hobbies
www.redshangarone.com

> You might like to take a look at the following web site. This is a delta
> wing electric that uses a gws park flyer motor and electonics system,
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> > > not know all of the parts I will need.  Any help, advice  or leads on
> > > really good prices would be greatly appreciated.
 
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