I have to wonder how you control the mobile test stands called model
planes...
> Speaking as a club officer whose club's field is on public land, I'd
> be against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
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>> Tom
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 22 Apr 2004 20:17 GMT
Different issue.
CR
> I have to wonder how you control the mobile test stands called model
> planes...
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>>> Tom
Please elaborate, what liability issues?
> Speaking as a club officer whose club's field is on public land, I'd be
> against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
> liability issues.
RCPILOT48 - 21 Apr 2004 02:28 GMT
Speaking as a former club officer - which doesn't mean a thing about the clubs
policy, unless we vote on it - we've had an engine test stand ever since we had
a field. That way, we have a place to break in engines.
Andy
>Please elaborate, what liability issues?
>
>> Speaking as a club officer whose club's field is on public land, I'd be
>> against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>> liability issues.
We can make a box of wood.....FLY!!
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 15:34 GMT
I'm glad that it's working for your club so far. Sure, I know the
argument: "Shux, I wouldn't sue, you wouldn't sue, who would sue?"
It's old "who" that I'd worry about! ;^)
If, during a meeting, someone proposed putting a club test stand at
our field, I'd point out the liability issues during discussion. If the
club voted to have a stand I'd want a disclaimer of responsibility sign
posted on the stand in plain view. I've seen at least one such stand in
my travels.
Anyway, I have several engine test stands of my own. I can whip one
up out of pine boards in less than an hour, to clamp in my Workmate. I
made one for my first big gasser. If I can do it, so can others. I
don't see opening the club up to liability in this litigous world.
My .02,
CR
> Speaking as a former club officer - which doesn't mean a thing about the clubs
> policy, unless we vote on it - we've had an engine test stand ever since we had
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> We can make a box of wood.....FLY!!
MJC - 21 Apr 2004 14:34 GMT
I'm wondering that too. There is no more danger or liability in running
an engine in a test stand then there is running an engine in an aircraft. In
fact, there's probably less risk.
MJC
> Please elaborate, what liability issues?
>
> > Speaking as a club officer whose club's field is on public land, I'd be
> > against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
> > liability issues.
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 15:09 GMT
The difference is that the airplane belongs to the user, the stand
belongs to the club. The latter case is where the liability could lie.
CR
> I'm wondering that too. There is no more danger or liability in running
> an engine in a test stand then there is running an engine in an aircraft. In
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>>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>>>liability issues.
MJC - 21 Apr 2004 15:33 GMT
It doesn't matter since both the club AND the individual user would be
covered by AMA insurance in either case.
MJC
> The difference is that the airplane belongs to the user, the stand
> belongs to the club. The latter case is where the liability could lie.
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> >>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
> >>>liability issues.
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 17:05 GMT
Insurance is not a panacea. Case in point: Our club is on the
city landfill property. Insurance or not, if anyone sues the city
because of an accident at our field we could be on thin ice. Especially
so since we share the property with the kid's soccer association's
playing fields. Any hint of negligence on out part with "those
dangerous model airplanes" and we could be in a world of hurt.
CR
> It doesn't matter since both the club AND the individual user would be
> covered by AMA insurance in either case.
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>>>>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>>>>>liability issues.
Paul McIntosh - 21 Apr 2004 17:22 GMT
I would agree if the test stand is anchored sufficiently. No chance of a
runaway!
--
Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> I'm wondering that too. There is no more danger or liability in running
> an engine in a test stand then there is running an engine in an aircraft. In
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> > > against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
> > > liability issues.
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 15:04 GMT
Someone hurts him/herself using the stand and sues the club and
property owner because the stand is defective, etc.
Don't laugh, it could happen.
CR
> Please elaborate, what liability issues?
>
>> Speaking as a club officer whose club's field is on public land, I'd be
>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>>liability issues.
Paul McIntosh - 21 Apr 2004 17:23 GMT
Same thing would happen if that same litigious person injured themself with
a fuselage mounted engine.
A lawyer can make anything sound improper.
--
Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> Someone hurts him/herself using the stand and sues the club and
> property owner because the stand is defective, etc.
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> >>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
> >>liability issues.
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 19:06 GMT
Tougher to hang anything on the club in that case, especially if the
airplane belongs to the injured party.
CR
> Same thing would happen if that same litigious person injured themself with
> a fuselage mounted engine.
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>>>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>>>>liability issues.
O4U2P - 21 Apr 2004 17:45 GMT
I just quite a club in Oregon because it is run by a Hitler clone and a retired
Attorney. It is their way or no way. The sad thing is the few remaining members
just sit on there thumbs and let it happen.
>Subject: Re: Plan For Engine Break-In Stand?
>From: "w4jle" w4jle(removeto reply)@w4jle.com
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>> against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>> liability issues.
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 21 Apr 2004 19:07 GMT
What's that got to do with this thread?
CR
> I just quite a club in Oregon because it is run by a Hitler clone and a retired
> Attorney. It is their way or no way. The sad thing is the few remaining members
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>>>against having a "club engine test stand" at the field. Too many
>>>liability issues.