Hi All,
I want to dye a clear canopy on my new Sig 4 Star 40 a dark grey or
almost black tint. I understand that using Rit Dye is the way to go,
which I went out and bought this evening. Other than that, are there
any tricks to using this stuff? Any input you may have would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Treker in Minnesota
AKA Jay B.
Mark D. Fain - 21 Apr 2004 06:49 GMT
I recently dyed a SIG canopy for my Super Kaos 180. I mixed one box black
and one box dark blue, about 3 cups of white vinegar, and about 2 1/2
gallons of hot water. I put it in an old beat up pot and heated it to
almost a boil on the stove ( make sure you use the vent fan over the stove
as this is a bit smelly from the vinegar.) I then turned off the heat and
let the mixture cool until it was at 145 deg F ( checked it with a cheap
$4.00 meat thermometer). After stirring well I dunked the canopy for about
8-10 minutes. Rinsed well in cold water. It came out a very dark
gray/black.
If you use just black dye it always seems to come out more a greenish grey
than black.
I found that the dye doesn't seem to "activate" unless the mixture is first
heated to at least 180 deg F. for a few minutes. Just don't immerse the
canopy until the mix cools to 145 deg F or it will soften too much and
distort. If you let the mix cool below 135 deg F before putting in the
canopy it doesn't get very dark. Start at 145 deg F and it should work
well.
This has worked well for the material in Sig brand canopies - if you use
another brand of canopy you will need to experiment.
Make sure to have an extra canopy or two on hand before starting- dying
plastic like this is always a bit hit-or-miss and it may take one or two
tries to get the result you want. If you get good results on the first try,
dye your spares while you have all the equipment set up and store them away
Mark D. Fain
> Hi All,
>
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> Treker in Minnesota
> AKA Jay B.
John R. Agnew - 25 Apr 2004 19:32 GMT
> I recently dyed a SIG canopy for my Super Kaos 180. I mixed one box black
> and one box dark blue, about 3 cups of white vinegar, and about 2 1/2
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> > Treker in Minnesota
> > AKA Jay B.
I normally dye my canopies with Rit Dye, but I built a Four-Star 120
several years ago and the canopy (heavier than the usual material)
would not accept the dye after a week in the bucket. This is my only
such experience, otherwise no problems.
The Raven - 21 Apr 2004 11:21 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> any tricks to using this stuff? Any input you may have would be
> appreciated.
Yep, as a plastic scale modeller that is one way to do it (not that I have
personally done it). Don't get the dye too hot and build up with successive
dips.
If you have access to an airbrush or a small touch up spray gun, get some
Tamiya acyrlic smoke in the small jar. Thin it slightly (Windex is often
used as a thinner) and lay it on in fine coats until you build up the level
of tint you need. Don't slather it on as it will run.
If a disaster occurs wash it off immediately. If it dries with a bad finish,
use some low fume-low/no caustic spray on oven cleaner. Take common sense
precautions and scrub it off with a toothbrush under running water. The
stuff should basically wash off.

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BobAndVickey - 21 Apr 2004 23:30 GMT
Warning: Test the Rite Dye on a scrap first. Way back in the good old days Rite
used Indian Ink for their black clothes dye and the result was a nice smokey
grey canopy. Rite then changed the formula to use a cheap blue base for their
black clothes dye and the result is one very blue tinted canopy! They changed
the formula some 20 years ago and after finding out the hard way I never used
it again for tinting a canopy. So they may have changed back since my last
experiance, but I doubt it since India Ink costs more. In any event Rite etches
into the plastic so if it turns blue you are stuck with it or buy a new canopy,
so test first!
There are now airbrush tints available from shops dealing in plastic scale kits
or there is the old method of getting a bottle of india black ink and adding it
to a water based gloss clear coat or future floor polish and air
brusing it. Spray this on the inside of the canopy for R/C. These methods
should be used on a scrap or junk canopy so you can experiment to get the
results you want before doing it on the real thing.
Bob Ruth
AMA 720565
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Charles & Peggy Robinson - 22 Apr 2004 04:33 GMT
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> Hi All,
>
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> Treker in Minnesota
> AKA Jay B.
scooter - 24 Apr 2004 15:31 GMT
Don,t make the water real hot, sometimes it distorts the canopy. Also some
of the plastic canopies don,t take the dye. In that case I spray paint from
inside.
> Hi All,
>
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> Treker in Minnesota
> AKA Jay B.
Morris Lee - 24 Apr 2004 17:36 GMT
> Don,t make the water real hot, sometimes it distorts the canopy.
Been there, done that!! :-( When in doubt, spray paint it from the inside.
Morris
Viper Pilot - 25 Apr 2004 17:20 GMT
Add 1/2 C baking soda to the dye. It will help "set" it so you don'
fade.
Vipe
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