Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
Regarding radios... Can the frequency be changed to match controls on other
planes? I would like to get a real good radio to use for my Nexstar and for
future models. What would be the recommendation? Price is not a problem....
Bob

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Ted Campanelli - 22 Apr 2004 20:10 GMT
On 4/22/2004 2:56 PM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
One of the Futaba's offers a "synthesized" (spelling ?) transmitter. It
uses an accessory pack. The other one I know about is from Polk
Hobbies. It is called the "Tracker II" which comes with a synthesized
receiver and one servo for under $300.
I have the Tracker II. It isn't a bad radio, however the programming is
somewhat clumsy compared to Futaba. There is currently no "buddy box"
port. The buddy box port is scheduled to come out on the next model
(end of year ?)
There was a review of the Tracker a couple of months ago in RCM (Feb.
issue ?) - I THINK the review is also on RC Universe.
Hope this helps.
> Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
> a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
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> Bob
Fred McClellan - 23 Apr 2004 00:01 GMT
>One of the Futaba's offers a "synthesized" (spelling ?) transmitter. It
>uses an accessory pack.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the synthesized 9Z does not use
an 'accessory pack' to synthesize all 50 channels. The synth R/F
module replaces the fixed frequency R/F module.
Go a step farther and get an R309DPS synthesized receiver, and never
again have to wait for the frequency pin to be available.
The 'accessory pack' is called a CamPac, and it provides additional
memory; you don't have to get a CamPac but it sure is nice being able
to store a couple _hundred_ models in memory.
You can get the Futaba 64k CamPac, or you can get a 'clone-pac' from
http://www.model-gadgets.com
or their U.S. distributor at
http://home.flash.net/~dynamic3/
The Model Gadgets clone-pacs have up to 512k storage, which in the 9Z
means up to >192< models in memory depending on the level of
programming for each model.
The higher end clone-pacs also have a 'service enabler' function which
allows the user to do calibration of basic 9Z functions (you can
_really_ shoot yourself in the foot if you're clueless . . . ).
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
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Morris Lee - 22 Apr 2004 20:55 GMT
> Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
> a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
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>
> Bob
Your best bet would be to buy a computer radio with multiple model memories
for your Nexstar (on the same frequency so you can use the Nexstar's
receiver) and then, as you get more models, buy flight packs (receiver,
switch harness, battery and servos) on the same frequency as your
transmitter.
Morris
jjvb - 23 Apr 2004 14:30 GMT
This is the route I would go also. Find a frequency at your field that is
not heavily populated then get a computer Tx that can store several models.
Get a new receiver on that frequency for each plane. Even with a Tx that
can transmit on any frequency, you would still need to have all of that
planes settings stored in the radio. The only advantage I can see would be
switching to another frequency if someone else is using yours. How often
does that happen. That is never a problem at our field. In three years, I
have never had to wait because someone was using my frequency.
John VB
> Your best bet would be to buy a computer radio with multiple model memories
> for your Nexstar (on the same frequency so you can use the Nexstar's
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>
> Morris
MJC - 22 Apr 2004 21:05 GMT
The absolutely BEST synthesized radio for the money right now is the
Multiplex Evo 9 or 12 channel. Go to RCgroups.com and go through the Royal
Evo thread in the Radio forum and it will definitely sell you on that radio.
The EVO is as powerful in programming (and I think better) than the
Futaba 9Z or the JR10X. It also happens to be much easier to program than
either of those two radios.
Don't even consider the Tracker because it's a piece of junk, even as
"inexpensive" as it is.
MJC
> Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
> a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
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>
> Bob
Doug McLaren - 22 Apr 2004 22:09 GMT
| The absolutely BEST synthesized radio for the money right now is the
| Multiplex Evo 9 or 12 channel. Go to RCgroups.com and go through the
| Royal Evo thread in the Radio forum and it will definitely sell you
| on that radio.
If price IS a problem, the Hitec Eclipse 7 w/ a Spectra module fits
the bill at $219 --
http://h1069375.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=HRC171724 .
Which is a good deal cheaper than the Evo 9 at $417. (But even so,
$417 isn't too bad. The Multiplex stuff that I've seen is sweeeet,
but I've never had one myself.)
For synthesized receivers, these --
http://polkshobby.site.yahoo.net/seekerii.html
look pretty good, though I've no personal experience with them.
| > Price is not a problem....
Must be nice. You'll go far in this hobby if that continues :)

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Dr1Driver - 22 Apr 2004 21:42 GMT
>Can the frequency be changed to match controls on other
>planes?
Welcome to R/C!!!
Some radios offer synthesized frequency selection (dial-a-frequency). They can
simply be switched to any frequency within the band.
A single-frequency radio can theoretically be changed to any other frequency in
the same band by swapping the crystal. In reality, I think it's wise to not go
more than 4-5 channels from the original unless you have it retuned. Some will
disagree on that.
Many computer radios can handle 2, 3, or even 6 models on one transmitter.
With different flight packs for each plane, you're all set.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Fred McClellan - 23 Apr 2004 00:01 GMT
>Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
>a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
>
>Regarding radios... Can the frequency be changed to match controls on other
>planes? I would like to get a real good radio to use for my Nexstar and for
>future models. What would be the recommendation? Price is not a problem....
Futaba offers the 9Z*S WC II system, where * is either H for heli or A
for airplane. Not a great deal of difference between the two, except
that the heli version transmitter does not have a ratchet on the
throttle.
The 9Z is the only fully synthesized system available. It uses a
synthesized transmitter _and_ a synthesized receiver.
Fly on any of the fifty legal channels.
You could go for years without tasking the 9Z to it's limits; most
flyers never come anywhere close to having requirements which exceed
the capabilities of the 9Z.
About $1400 for the Tx and Rx.
If you add the CamPac (or a similar after market item), the Tx can
store parameters for up to 50 models.
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
The House Of Balsa Dust
http://home.mindspring.com/~the-plumber
Doug McLaren - 23 Apr 2004 00:48 GMT
| Futaba offers the 9Z*S WC II system, where * is either H for heli or A
| for airplane. Not a great deal of difference between the two, except
| that the heli version transmitter does not have a ratchet on the
| throttle.
|
| The 9Z is the only fully synthesized system available.
... from Futaba, for 72 mhz. You forgot those parts. Other
manufacturers certainly do sell `fully synthesized systems', and
Futaba does offer synthesized stuff (receivers, and modules that work
the non 9Z but still moduled radios) on 75 mhz
(Of course, I don't see a single button where you can buy a
synthesized 75 mhz radio, module and synthesized receiver all at once
(so maybe you don't cosider it a `system') but Futaba does sell all
three if you're ready to mix and match a little. And of course, it's
75 mhz, not for planes, so maybe it doesn't really count in this
group.)
But Polk Hobbies certainly does sell such a `system', and while I'm
not sure if the other manufacturers do or don't sell a full `system',
you can certainly mix and match and get a fully synthesized
transmitter and receiver.
(Why Futaba does for 75 mhz and not 72 mhz escapes me. Liability
concerns? I really wish they'd get off their butt and sell the 72 mhz
sythesized module we've heard rumors of for years.)
| It uses a synthesized transmitter _and_ a synthesized receiver.
Neither is terribly difficult to find nowadays.
| Fly on any of the fifty legal channels.
|
| You could go for years without tasking the 9Z to it's limits; most
| flyers never come anywhere close to having requirements which exceed
| the capabilities of the 9Z.
Certainly true.
| About $1400 for the Tx and Rx.
... which is why we don't all have one :)

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Fubar - 23 Apr 2004 02:11 GMT
You would want a decent at least 6 channel computer radio. A Futaba 6XAS,
for example, will hold 6 separate memories which means you can program for 6
different planes. Each memory will hold your setup for that particular plane
including trims, control rates, mixes, and so forth.
All you do from then on is get a flight pack (receiver, servos and whatnot)
for each plane on the frequency of your transmitter.
If price is not a problem (what a concept!) then you might consider
something like a Futaba 9C which is 9 channels, holds 9 memories plus 5 more
if you add a Campac memory module for a total of 14 at a time.
I recommend the Futaba radios because those are what I use and am familiar
with.
One bonus is that Futaba and Hitec equipment are compatable so you can use
Hitec receivers with a Futaba transmitter and viceversa.

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> Hi folks... I'm a total newbie. Joined a local club and have been flying on
> a buddy box. Flying a Hobbicco Nexstar and doing pretty well.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Bob
The Natural Philosopher - 23 Apr 2004 11:10 GMT
Of course in the benighted state of Europe, we just buy a couple of
cheap transmitters and gaily change the crystals in them and use the
right one for the model.
Two handed twin plane combat anyone? Or is that too much 'playing with
yourself'? :-)
You can pick up four or five transmitters for the price of one
synthesied transmitter on Ebay...