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Cade - 24 Apr 2004 03:11 GMT
Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.
Boris - 24 Apr 2004 03:42 GMT
Basically, all 40 size trainers are the same. Wait (if you can :) for a
sale of an ARF for around $70.

> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.
Dr1Driver - 24 Apr 2004 04:28 GMT
>Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?

If you want to build, the two trainers that come to mind are the Goldberg Eagle
and the Great Planes PT-40.

If you want a ARF, any of the Hobbico trainers or the Tower Hobbies trainers
are all excellent,

Welcome to R/C.  Feel free to keep asking questions.

Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Fubar - 24 Apr 2004 05:00 GMT
Sig LT 40.
Meets all of your requirements with flying colors.

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> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.
Old Garb - 25 Apr 2004 00:32 GMT
> Sig LT 40.
> Meets all of your requirements with flying colors.

We took my LT-40 (from a kit) out to our field today for my son and I to get lessons - our 2nd and 3rd.  Consensus on the field is the LT-40 is among the best available.  We power ours with a ThunderTigre .46 Pro and 11-5 APC prop.  The only complaint I have against this trainer is the music wire LG is a little flimsy.
Marlowe - 24 Apr 2004 05:36 GMT
Probably more important to the plane is a good club with instructors.  I was
fortunate to join such a group which helped me big time.

Here are some off the wall inputs.  1)- Look at the Graupner "Tipsy"
electric park flyer as a first trainer.  Its pusher design and flight
characteristics are ideal. Get a lot of stick time before moving up to a
glow engine power plane.  2)- Look into a SPAD trainer such as a Debonair.
See http://www.spadtothebone.com/ for more info.  I crashed my Deb in a high
speed, low altitude turn and it flew the next morning.  Everyone at the
field said that a conventional balsa plane would have been in a hundred
pieces.  The plastic plane is very resilient.

> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.
Morris Lee - 24 Apr 2004 17:54 GMT
> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.

One of the best ARF trainers out there is the Hobbico Superstar or Avistar.
The Avistar is a bit faster and more aerobatic.  My fave build-it trainer is
Hobby Lobby's Telemaster 40, although it's one of those you really gotta
build.  The Sig LT40 is also a very popular trainer.

Morris
RCPILOT48 - 28 Apr 2004 01:13 GMT
>what
>> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
>> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.

Balsa USA Stick Plus, with out a doubt. Ugly as they possibly could be. Strong,
good flyer, repairable. cheap. Good luck , let us all know what & how you do.
Andy

We can make a box of wood.....FLY!!
Morris Lee - 28 Apr 2004 21:15 GMT
> >what
> >> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
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> We can make a box of wood.....FLY!!

Learned to fly with one.  Be careful, though.  The kit and the extras you
need to complete it may wind up costing as much as a low-budget ARF trainer.
They are easy to build and fix, though.

If cheap is your thing, you might want to try one of the SPADs
(www.spadtothebone.com) like the DebonAir.

Morris

Morris
jjvb - 29 Apr 2004 13:44 GMT
My observation is that in most cases, it is difficult to build a kit for
less than what an arf costs.

John VB

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> > >> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
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> Morris
Mike Gordon - 29 Apr 2004 14:18 GMT
It is also true you get what you pay for!

>My observation is that in most cases, it is difficult to build a kit for
>less than what an arf costs.
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freeda - 30 Apr 2004 10:38 GMT
> My observation is that in most cases, it is difficult to build a kit for
> less than what an arf costs.
>
> John VB

Yes but remember that for many of us, building is half the hobby. Also with
the skills learned from building, it makes recovery from that crash easier
and cheaper.
Dr1Driver - 30 Apr 2004 13:20 GMT
>the skills learned from building, it makes recovery from that crash easier
>and cheaper.

It will also probably be built better, too.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
jjvb - 30 Apr 2004 14:03 GMT
No argument from me.  I really enjoy building, however, I can understand why
a lot of people don't (and shouldn't) build.  I have seen planes put
together by some people that I would be afraid to fly.

John VB

> > My observation is that in most cases, it is difficult to build a kit for
> > less than what an arf costs.
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> the skills learned from building, it makes recovery from that crash easier
> and cheaper.
Viper Pilot - 29 Apr 2004 14:53 GMT
One word . . . . . Avista

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Viper Pilo
Ken Mattsson - 30 Apr 2004 15:15 GMT
And if you build from a kit, building a classic wooden wing, you will learn
all the major parts that make up a wing in most conventional airplanes, from
small Cessnas to big passenger jets. That´s very interesting AND fun IMHO.

Building the wing is still part of the construction of many trainers and
it´s not hard at all. Just looking at the skeleton of a wing, you will
realize what carries what loads, what the different parts are doing, you´ll
start to appreciate the wonderfully clever constructions, combining strenght
with lightness. And of course, as most guys have already told you, youll be
able to make repairs readily.

Having said this, there is nothing wrong with ARF:s, other wing construction
techniques and so on, but everybody starts their journey of discoveries
somewhere and the wooden classic wing is as good a place to start as any...I
think.

Happy building and flying!

Oh, and, get an instructor to learn you to fly (I wish I had done this), AND
the free FMS simulator software+an adapter to you tranny.

Cheers, Ken
jeboba - 24 Apr 2004 18:12 GMT
New Nexstar from Tower Hobbies.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXK2**&P=ML
Best deal goin! Radio and engine already installed. Quality O.S. Max engine.
Futaba radio. Comes with flight simulator for your computer to learn to fly
the airplane before actually going to the field. Pilot Assist (autopilot)
Stall fences and air brakes to slow it down for landing (can be removed
after you get good enough.

This is a remarkable bargain at $399. There are a BUNCH of newbies at our
field with them and everyone absolutely LOVES the airplane...even the
instructors!

> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.
Cade - 30 Apr 2004 21:22 GMT
> Was Just wondering what you people recommended for a newbie trainer?
> I have the transmitter 7 ch  and engine (.40) and was wondering what
> high wing trainer to buy?  Low dollar is the key  and it needs to be
> easy to fix easy to fly and 4 channel preferably balsa.

I thank you all for your posts and recomandations. At least now I have
somthing to go off. I have been flying The aerobird challenger and at
loving it. But I feel Its time to step up and build somthing of my own
. (4 ch) R/C

Thanks

Andy
 
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