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FAA regulations for model airplanes near airports.........................anybody know what the standard rule is?

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Boll Weevil - 01 May 2004 18:38 GMT
FAA regulations for model airplanes near
airports.........................anybody know what the standard rule
is?
Don Hatten - 01 May 2004 19:21 GMT
http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/memanual04.pdf

Page 3, will give you the general idea, but if you are flying on the airport
property it would be better to go talk to the airport manager and get his
rules spelled out for you.

Don

> FAA regulations for model airplanes near
> airports.........................anybody know what the standard rule
> is?
Darrell Anderson - 02 May 2004 02:03 GMT
Specifics:

Here's the FAA Advisory Circular - AC 91-57 -  dated  June 9, 1981,
http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/528.pdf 

Or .pdf of original FAA signed copy:

http://www1.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.ns
f/0/1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-57.pdf


Upon which the AMA membership guidelines and Safety Code were based:

AMA Safety Code, Item 2:

2) I will not fly my model higher than approximately 400 feet within 3
miles of an airport without notifying the airport operator. I will
give right-of-way and avoid flying in the proximity of fullscale
aircraft. Where necessary, an observer shall be utilized to supervise
flying to avoid having models fly in the proximity of full-scale
aircraft.

And FAA notice for UAV's :
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/notices/8700/N%208700-25.htm

D. Anderson

>http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/memanual04.pdf
>
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>> airports.........................anybody know what the standard rule
>> is?
Dell Shannon - 02 May 2004 04:58 GMT
and any rules may be imposed by the city or the manager of the airport..

we have the ability to fly from the airport with a set of rules that are
added to our current club rules for flying sites.

> Specifics:
>
> Here's the FAA Advisory Circular - AC 91-57 -  dated  June 9, 1981,
>  http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/528.pdf
>
> Or .pdf of original FAA signed copy:

http://www1.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.ns
f/0/1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-57.pdf


> Upon which the AMA membership guidelines and Safety Code were based:
>
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> >> airports.........................anybody know what the standard rule
> >> is?
Doug McLaren - 02 May 2004 22:26 GMT
| Specifics:
|
| Here's the FAA Advisory Circular - AC 91-57 -  dated  June 9, 1981,
|  http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/528.pdf

Note that it's advisory -- not law.  Still, mostly common sense.

Interesting how it says `Do not fly model aircraft higher than 400
feet above the surface.', but then goes into details about what to do
if near an airport.  The AMA version says to not go over 400 feet if
near an airport ...

So does the FAA think we should not fly over 400 feet high anywhere,
or only if near an airport?

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Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com
Consciousness:  That annoying time between naps.

MK - 03 May 2004 04:05 GMT
I fly at the local airport(no trees!)
Must have a spotter.
Now, if my .40 to .60 size plane is high enough to become a speck, how high
do you think that is?
I'm not a good judge.
mk

> | Specifics:
> |
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> So does the FAA think we should not fly over 400 feet high anywhere,
> or only if near an airport?
jeboba - 03 May 2004 04:19 GMT
a lot more than 400 feet!

> I fly at the local airport(no trees!)
> Must have a spotter.
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> > Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com
> > Consciousness:  That annoying time between naps.
jeboba - 03 May 2004 04:20 GMT
Put the airplane on the ground 400 feet away and note it's 'size'. Then try
to duplicate that 'size' in the sky. That'll give you an idea of how high
400' is. It's not very high!

> I fly at the local airport(no trees!)
> Must have a spotter.
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> > Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com
> > Consciousness:  That annoying time between naps.
IFLYJ3 - 03 May 2004 12:24 GMT
Good idea. Also while you are doing this have someone stand the plane
on its wing tip so that the bottom is to you. Look at the plane with
your antenna in the middle of the wing. Take tape and mark the wing
span on your antenna. When you are flying compare the size of the wing
to the taped marks on the antenna. When they ar equal, you are then
the same distance high that you were horizonal.
This will give you an idea. 400 feet is not high for a 1/3 scale but
is real high for a 1/2A plane. It's all relative.

> Put the airplane on the ground 400 feet away and note it's 'size'. Then try
> to duplicate that 'size' in the sky. That'll give you an idea of how high
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> >  I'm not a good judge.
> > mk
 
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