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Does FMA Co Pilot really work with only 1 aileron servo??

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Mike - 05 May 2004 02:16 GMT
I am starting out in aerial photography using a BTE Flyin King.  Being
able to keep the aircraft level and whn at higher altitudes would be a
great help. For that reason I have been researching the FMA Co Pilot.
My Flyin King has one servo per aileron and the FMA Co Pilot only
hooks up to one servo for pitch and one for roll axis.

If I install the Co Pilot and plug in say the right aileron then when
centering the sticks would give the Co Pilot the control over the
right aileron and then left would then be centered. I am thinking that
there would be sufficiant control from the one servo to make
corrections in flight but not as quickly as if both ailerons where
moving...any thoughts about this as I really do not want to waste the
cash if it is not going to do what I need it to.

Thanks for your time
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 05 May 2004 04:04 GMT
Put both servos on a Y connector and plug into the FMA just like you
would plug into the receiver in a normal installation !

David

>I am starting out in aerial photography using a BTE Flyin King.  Being
>able to keep the aircraft level and whn at higher altitudes would be a
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>
>Thanks for your time
quietguy - 06 May 2004 00:38 GMT
That is how I set mine up and it works just like they claim - terrific -
even landed my plane all by itself, deadstick, while out of my site.  Not
bad for a little gadget hey.

David

> Put both servos on a Y connector and plug into the FMA just like you
> would plug into the receiver in a normal installation !
>
> David
Doug McLaren - 05 May 2004 07:22 GMT
| If I install the Co Pilot and plug in say the right aileron then when
| centering the sticks would give the Co Pilot the control over the
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| moving...any thoughts about this as I really do not want to waste the
| cash if it is not going to do what I need it to.

Yes, it would basically do what you want.

However, if it put an aileron down, it would lift that side of the
plane, true, but would also pitch the nose up, which would then cause
it to move the elevator to poke the nose back down.  I imagine it
would work, but not that well -- if the plane twisted to the left, it
would lurch back to the right, and as that happened the nose would go
up or down and then correct ... under certain conditions I imagine it
could cause oscillations where it never recovers and keeps making
adjustments to both the aileron and elevator.  (But of course, that's
a concern with any sort of auto-pilot system.)

A better idea would be to do as the other poster suggested, and put
both ailerons on one channel with a Y cable.  You might need to adjust
the connector on one servo or use a servo reverser if both ailerons go
in the same direction when you do that.

If you do need to use flaperons (or spoilers, or air brakes) with this
setup, get a mixer to put in your plane, and then you can plug the
Co-Pilot into the aileron side, and your flap channel into the other
side (and your radio won't be doing the mixing for you anymore.)

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Tom Johnson - 05 May 2004 08:55 GMT
Mike,

I use the exact same set up, a BTE Fly'n King with a FMA co-pilot. I,
too, wanted it for a camera platform. The Co-Pilot is a VERY good
system, but hook it up to a Y on one channel. I built the Fly'n King
with flaps and they provide plenty of slow flight performance. I don't
see a need for flaparons. I have had excellent results with an
on-board video camera and transmitter, the co-pilot makes the job of
flying a steady course for the camera a cinch. The device is worth
every penny. Mine is set up with remote switching so that I can fully
control the model for loops, etc. with the device off, and switch it
on for level flight.

The Fly'n King, a camera, and the Co-Pilot are a perfect match.

Tom

> I am starting out in aerial photography using a BTE Flyin King.  Being
> able to keep the aircraft level and whn at higher altitudes would be a
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>
> Thanks for your time
Mike - 05 May 2004 22:05 GMT
Thanks for the replies.....going with a y connector it is!

Tom, I sent you an email.

Cheers

Mike
Tom Johnson - 06 May 2004 07:32 GMT
Mike,

Try: taj450(removespam)@comcast.com

Tom

> Thanks for the replies.....going with a y connector it is!
>
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>
> Mike
Mike - 06 May 2004 17:46 GMT
Tom, for some reason I can't get my email to you...can you email me at
skycam41@yahoo.ca please?

Thanks

Mike
Tom Johnson - 07 May 2004 07:30 GMT
Mike,

It has been sent.

Tom

> Tom, for some reason I can't get my email to you...can you email me at
> skycam41@yahoo.ca please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
 
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