I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
to do is connect up the engine throttle.
The plans call for a standard plastic clevis connector to the throttle, but
this strikes me as being a bit Mickey Mouse.
What are my options for connecting the throttle? I have a 2-56 Ball
Connector with Locking Sleeve (made by Sullivan - No. 560) which might work
well since it has a good range of motion. However, I would have to enlarge
the hole on the throttle brackets slightly to use it.
The best arrangement would be a plastic ball and socket, but I haven't
anything like this on the market.
TIA
Don Tanner
Oakville, Ontario
MK - 18 May 2004 01:46 GMT
A ball con is good, I hate drilling out trottle arms too. Clevis will work
fine, Z bend the servo end.
I did a throttle today with a Z bend at each end, not fun but hey, it works.
mk
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
jeboba - 18 May 2004 22:03 GMT
AVOID metal to metal contact! If it's a plastic throttle arm, no problem.
Plastic ball sockets are available. Dubro makes them. Go here:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD897&P=M
It's what I use and they work great. Otherwise, the nylon clevis is just
fine. I use them too.
> A ball con is good, I hate drilling out trottle arms too. Clevis will work
> fine, Z bend the servo end.
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> > Don Tanner
> > Oakville, Ontario
Fred McClellan - 18 May 2004 01:57 GMT
>I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
>to do is connect up the engine throttle.
>The plans call for a standard plastic clevis connector to the throttle, but
>this strikes me as being a bit Mickey Mouse.
Not Mickey Mouse at all, provided the clevis has the correct
orientation to the throttle arm and the linkage isn't trying to bend
the clevis at an angle to the pin.
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
The House Of Balsa Dust
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Bob - 18 May 2004 02:00 GMT
> What are my options for connecting the throttle?
>
> The best arrangement would be a plastic ball and socket, but I haven't
> anything like this on the market.
That's what I use on all my airplanes, sort of. DuBro makes a deal with a
metal ball and plastic socket. The metal ball has a threaded stud and is
attached to the throttle arm with a tiny nut.
As a matter of fact, I flew my Kyosho Sensation 1400 around the field at
full throttle for 13 minutes today when the tiny nut came off the ball and
the whole works came off the throttle arm. :-)
I usually don't use Loc-Tite... I use thin CA. Must have missed this one.
Good flying,
Bob Scott
Ted Campanelli - 18 May 2004 02:08 GMT
On 5/17/2004 8:27 PM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
The clevis is not really "Mickey Mouse". It works quite well and is
less expensive than a ball connector. The Sullivan ball connector you
have will work just as well as the clevis though. Make sure you have
adequate clearance for the locking sleeve.
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
Dr1Driver - 18 May 2004 02:13 GMT
>The plans call for a standard plastic clevis connector to the throttle, but
>this strikes me as being a bit Mickey Mouse.
Nothing Mickey Mouse about it. It's been done that way for years. Use a "Z"
bend at the servo end, and a nylon (what you call plastic) clevis at the
carburetor. You can use a ball link, but unless your throttle linkage makes
some unusual angle to the throttle arm, why bother?
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Fubar - 18 May 2004 02:19 GMT
DuBro makes a metal ball and plastic socket setup that would be perfect.
From the Tower Hobbies website:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD900&P=0
As they say, "These are ideal for use on carb throttle arms."

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> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
Black Cloud - 18 May 2004 02:28 GMT
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
In the many years I've been flying, I've not had a clevis failure at all. It
is a tried and true method of hooking up control surfaces and the throttle.
However, that being said, if you don't feel comfortable with the clevis on
the throttle, by all means, use the ball connector. It will work just fine.
Drilling our the throttle arm (within reason of course) won't hurt anything.
That is the great thing about our hobby, you get to engineer stuff to your
own liking. As long as it is safe, you are free to connect things anyway you
see fit. The dual z bend works too but is limited in that there is absolutly
no adjustment of the pushrod if you run out of end point adjustment on your
radio. Just my .02
Jim W.
Tony Law - 18 May 2004 04:49 GMT
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
> The plans call for a standard plastic clevis connector to the throttle, but
> this strikes me as being a bit Mickey Mouse.
HI, i was told the plastic throttle arm connectors are plastic, because of
static
build up from linkage, causing radio woes, i could be wrong though
C.O.Jones - 18 May 2004 10:42 GMT
Rule of thumb is to avoid any metal on metal contact in the throttle
linkage. The engine can generate radio noise which can be passed down the
metal rod to the radio. Modern radios have probably negated this to some
extent but, I'd rather let the other guy prove this with his plane!
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
C W - 18 May 2004 12:58 GMT
This one has always intrigued me - just how does an engine produce
radio noise ?
Unless of course it is spark ignition.
CW
>Rule of thumb is to avoid any metal on metal contact in the throttle
>linkage. The engine can generate radio noise which can be passed down the
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>> Don Tanner
>> Oakville, Ontario
Dr1Driver - 18 May 2004 13:24 GMT
>This one has always intrigued me - just how does an engine produce
>radio noise ?
What are you, an English teacher? Everyone else here understood what he meant.
OK - A metal-to-metal make and break contact at the throttle arm can cause
electrical noise. This noise may be picked up by the RX antenna or servo
signal wires.
How's that?
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
C.O.Jones - 19 May 2004 00:52 GMT
> >This one has always intrigued me - just how does an engine produce
> >radio noise ?
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> Dr.1 Driver
> "There's a Hun in the sun!"
And I suppose next he's going to tell us that electrical noise doesn't fall
into the RF spectrum!
Gord Schindler - 18 May 2004 11:38 GMT
Use a ball and socket, readily available at the hobby shops around Oakville.
They come in 2 shaft sizes...either one will work. Don't worry about
drilling the hole out 'cause you will probably use the same set up on the
next plane. A Z bend is also good but not so easy to do without the proper
tool. I don't generally use a clevis as it does not always provide the
range of motion without binding on the throttle arm.
Gord Schindler
MAAC6694
> I am just finishing up an Eagle 2 trainer and one of the last things I have
> to do is connect up the engine throttle.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario