I am ALMOST finished my first trainer (an Eagle 2) and have a couple of
questions to ask before doing so.
BTW --- thanks to all who suggested a Z bend + plastic connector for the
throttle. As you pointed out quite patiently, it DOES work well. A little
finicky, but that's part of the fun for me!
Here are my questions:
1. Can you point me to the FAQ for this group --- I should have asked this a
while ago
2. I need to install a basic 10x6 Master Aircrew prop on an OS 40SF
engine --- the whole in the prop is a smaller than the shaft on the engine.
Is it better to drill out the prop or is reaming a better way to go? Is it
necessary to buy a reamer made by someone like GP, or can I just use a tap
that you can buy at Home Depot? Typically, how many threads per inch are on
an OS engine shaft --- it seems to be 28, but this strikes as oddball
(1/4"-28 versus a more standard 1/4"-20).
Thanks
Don Tanner
Oakville, Ontario
Red Scholefield - 30 May 2004 16:34 GMT
> Here are my questions:
And here are some answers:
> 1. Can you point me to the FAQ for this group --- I should have asked this a
> while ago
http://webpages.charter.net/rcfu/
> 2. I need to install a basic 10x6 Master Aircrew prop on an OS 40SF
> engine --- the whole in the prop is a smaller than the shaft on the engine.
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> an OS engine shaft --- it seems to be 28, but this strikes as oddball
> (1/4"-28 versus a more standard 1/4"-20).
Don't tap the prop hole, you need to ream it out just enough so you can
slide it on the prop shaft. Be careful not to go too far with the reaming.
The prop should have no slop as you put it on the prop shaft. I have used a
standard tapered reamer available at most hardware stores. It is a tool that
has a multitude of uses in the modelers shop so you should have one anyway.
> Thanks
You are welcome.
--
Red Scholefield AMA 951 District V
AAAlias - 30 May 2004 19:23 GMT
"Red Scholefield" <redscho@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B4nuc.10882> Don't tap the prop hole, you need to ream it out just
enough so you can
> slide it on the prop shaft. Be careful not to go too far with the reaming.
> The prop should have no slop as you put it on the prop shaft. I have used a
> standard tapered reamer available at most hardware stores. It is a tool that
> has a multitude of uses in the modelers shop so you should have one anyway.
FYI. The correct way is to buy a metric prop reamer.
Bill Fulmer - 30 May 2004 20:24 GMT
I believe the original poster stated he had an OS .40 SF. This engine's
prop shaft is NOT metric. The correct reamer is the 1/4" portion of a
standard step reamer.. The thread on the propeller shaft is 1/4-28.
Cheers,
Bill
> FYI. The correct way is to buy a metric prop reamer.
Red Scholefield - 30 May 2004 20:47 GMT
> "Red Scholefield" <redscho@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:B4nuc.10882>
>I have used a standard tapered reamer available at most hardware stores.
>
> FYI. The correct way is to buy a metric prop reamer.
OH? What size would you suggest for a 1/4 - 28 prop shaft? :-)
Am I the only one that has been foolishly using a stock tapered reamer on
props for the past half century with good results?
Red S.
Bill Fulmer - 30 May 2004 23:17 GMT
Prolly not...
But a tapered reamer takes out more stock than necessary, and could weaken a
hub... A step reamer will just enlarges the hole as required..
And they were especially good with the old K&B's that also needed the
backside of the hub relieved a tad... Mine's an old Fox, and still sharp
after a looong time.
Bill
> > "Red Scholefield" <redscho@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:B4nuc.10882>
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>
> Red S.
Michael Renzi - 31 May 2004 06:04 GMT
> > "Red Scholefield" <redscho@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:B4nuc.10882>
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>
> Red S.
No......your not the only one....."welcome to the club"........lol
:-)
Mike
Fubar - 30 May 2004 18:24 GMT
Dont know about the FAQ but do invest in the prop reamer. You dont want to
thread the prop, you just want to enlarge the hole. This allows you to
position the prop so that it can be level to the ground as the engine comes
up against compression. Saves you a lot of props this way on the less than
perfect landings. Drilling out the prop without making it off sided is not
easy. The prop reamer is a tool you will be using often in the future.

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> I am ALMOST finished my first trainer (an Eagle 2) and have a couple of
> questions to ask before doing so.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
Ted Campanelli - 30 May 2004 18:56 GMT
On 5/30/2004 11:06 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
RC Universe http://www.rcuniverse.com/ has an excellent selection of
forums covering quite a few topics.
Another site you can try is RCFAQ
http://web.archive.org/web/20030625052210/http://www.rcfaq.com/
Be aware that this is a VERY SLOW SITE.
And this wouldn't be complete without Allen's RC Links
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/
> I am ALMOST finished my first trainer (an Eagle 2) and have a couple of
> questions to ask before doing so.
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> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario
Carrell - 30 May 2004 20:02 GMT
I am ALMOST finished my first trainer (an Eagle 2) and have a couple of
questions to ask before doing so.
BTW --- thanks to all who suggested a Z bend + plastic connector for the
throttle. As you pointed out quite patiently, it DOES work well. A little
finicky, but that's part of the fun for me!
Here are my questions:
1. Can you point me to the FAQ for this group --- I should have asked this a
while ago
2. I need to install a basic 10x6 Master Aircrew prop on an OS 40SF
engine --- the whole in the prop is a smaller than the shaft on the engine.
Is it better to drill out the prop or is reaming a better way to go? Is it
necessary to buy a reamer made by someone like GP, or can I just use a tap
that you can buy at Home Depot? Typically, how many threads per inch are on
an OS engine shaft --- it seems to be 28, but this strikes as oddball
(1/4"-28 versus a more standard 1/4"-20).
Thanks
Don Tanner
Oakville, Ontario
==================
1. Not sure if there is a FAQ. Generally accepted posting standards are
similar to most usenet groups; 'plain text' messages and no photos or other
binary attachments. www.rcgroups.com and www.rcuniverse.com have good
beginner forums. There are probably others but these are the ones I know.
2. 1/4-28 is a standard fine thread. There is also a 1/4-32 thread but, in
models, I think it's only used for glow plugs. Every engine I've seen has
fine threads on the prop shaft. Most engines under .61 use 1/4-28 shafts
(assuming they do not have metric shafts)(I'm certain there are plenty of
exceptions). My .61 to .91 engines (OS, ASP, Thunder Tiger) have 5/16-24
threads. As others answered, you should get a prop reamer. My brother
bought the Great Planes version and it seemed very dull. It was hard to
work it through a Master Airscrew prop, and almost impossible to get it
through an APC. I bought a Fox reamer, and when my brother saw how sharp it
is, he bought one and tossed the GP. The prop reamer is the first GP tool
we've been disappointed with.
Regards,
Carrell
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 02 Jun 2004 04:08 GMT
The Hangar 9 step reamer sucks too.
I came up with a step reamer in a "junk box" that will nearly cut
your finger. The H9 will allow me to rub my finger all along the
edges with impunity!
David
SNIP >through an APC. I bought a Fox reamer, and when my brother saw
how sharp it >is, he bought one and tossed the GP. The prop reamer is
the first GP tool we've been disappointed with.
>Regards,
>Carrell
Dr1Driver - 02 Jun 2004 11:40 GMT
>I came up with a step reamer in a "junk box" that will nearly cut
>your finger.
The only GOOD step reamer I've found is the Fox. Mine is almost 20 years old,
and will wtill shave a prop hole clean as a whistle.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Fred McClellan - 02 Jun 2004 23:29 GMT
>>I came up with a step reamer in a "junk box" that will nearly cut
>>your finger.
>
>The only GOOD step reamer I've found is the Fox. Mine is almost 20 years old,
>and will wtill shave a prop hole clean as a whistle.
I switched to step drills from B&B.
Way more better.
Mike Norton - 31 May 2004 04:21 GMT
Comments interspersed below.
> I am ALMOST finished my first trainer (an Eagle 2) and have a couple of
> questions to ask before doing so.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 1. Can you point me to the FAQ for this group --- I should have asked this a
> while ago
I can't - maybe someone else can.
> 2. I need to install a basic 10x6 Master Aircrew prop on an OS 40SF
> engine --- the whole in the prop is a smaller than the shaft on the engine.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> an OS engine shaft --- it seems to be 28, but this strikes as oddball
> (1/4"-28 versus a more standard 1/4"-20).
You don't want to thread the prop onto the shaft. 1/4-28 is the correct
thread for the shaft, but the prop needs to be reamed to a clearance hole
for 1/4 inch.
I think a 10/6 prop from most makers already has a 1/4" hole in it. If not,
any of the hobby shop hand reamers can do the job. The problem with
drilling out the hole is making sure you are centered. If you have a drill
press or milling machine and a center finder, this is no problem.
Otherwise, you can end up with an unbalanced prop.
In other words, you shouldn't have to do anything. Will the prop "thread
onto" the shaft? If so, just run it down until it bottoms on the drive
bushing, then tighten the washer and nut down. This will "strip" any
threads made in running it down, which is what you want. Tighten and go
fly.
-- Mike Norton
> Thanks
>
> Don Tanner
> Oakville, Ontario