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Charlie H. - 31 May 2004 23:24 GMT
If an ARF has a three piece wing and the dihedral is not the same on both
sides (1 inch difference at the wing tip), what are the consequences to the
flight characteristics ?

Regards,
Charlie
Dr1Driver - 01 Jun 2004 03:40 GMT
>what are the consequences to the
>flight characteristics ?

It will not fly straight.  The unequal dihedral will equalize in the air.  It
will roll to the higher side, or wing with more dihedral.  This will make the
horizontal stab fly at a roll angle instead of horizontally.  Loops will not be
vertical and any elevator input will impart a rolling motion as well.  It will
probably be difficult to trim for straight and level flight.

If possible, correct the inequity in the dihedral.

Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Charlie H. - 01 Jun 2004 04:36 GMT
Thank you for the clear explanation.
The plane is Kyosho AT-6.
Everything is glued (the wing pieces fit together so nice and tight at the
joints that I did not check the wing tips against the workbench, bad
mistake).
As soon as the assembled wing was put on the bench it was obvious that it
was not equal.
I have been considering sawing off one wing and trying to reattach it, but I
doubt this operation would be successful considering the wing spar would be
impossible to remove from the center fiberglass section or the wing section.
I have also been looking for a reasonably compatible Balsa wing I could
build from scratch, no luck so far.
Thanks once again for the flight characteristic explanation, I understand
exactly what you are telling me.

Charlie

> >what are the consequences to the
> >flight characteristics ?
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> Dr.1 Driver
> "There's a Hun in the sun!"
Dr1Driver - 01 Jun 2004 14:21 GMT
>I have been considering sawing off one wing and trying to reattach it,

It would be much easier to remove the horizontal stab and reattach it in line
with the wing.  This will make the fuselage fly a little tilted, but once in
the air, no one will notice.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Will Hicks - 01 Jun 2004 15:20 GMT
> >I have been considering sawing off one wing and trying to reattach it,
>
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> Dr.1 Driver
> "There's a Hun in the sun!"

Gotta move that vertical fin too  :)

Will

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Dr1Driver - 01 Jun 2004 16:13 GMT
>Gotta move that vertical fin too  :)

Good point!
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Charlie H. - 02 Jun 2004 00:08 GMT
It would have been easier if I had not put my brain in neutral, the
instructions clearly point out that this is important.
All I was concerned about is how the glue joint looked. For what it is worth
it does look real nice :-(
This plane has a fiberglass fuselage with the vertical stab integrated into
it so there is no way to adjust it.
Just a big ol' goof up that I am trying to figure a way out of.
While I am certainly not a master builder I should have been able to glue
this ARF together without making this kind of error. But since I am where I
am, I appreciate the ideas.

CH
DC3Gooney - 02 Jun 2004 11:07 GMT
>From: "Charlie H." dontspamme2hinton@comcast.net

>It would have been easier if I had not put my brain in neutral, the
>instructions clearly point out that this is important.
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>
>CH

Depending upon how you explain things,
the manufacturer might send you another
wing, no charge?

DC3
Dell Shannon - 02 Jun 2004 12:52 GMT
I agree, be a little creative and let them understand you, in that an ARF
should not require in depth building skills.

> >From: "Charlie H." dontspamme2hinton@comcast.net
>
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> DC3
Charlie H. - 03 Jun 2004 00:50 GMT
It is my fault.
If I go the Kyosho new wing route I will pay for it.

CH
jjvb - 03 Jun 2004 14:35 GMT
Partially so.  However, if the wing was properly made, if the two pieces
were mated with no gaps, etc, then the dihedral should have been correct.
The angles on the joining surfaces must not have been correct.

John VB

> It is my fault.
> If I go the Kyosho new wing route I will pay for it.
>
> CH
bauchas@webtv.net - 03 Jun 2004 14:46 GMT
cann't the fuse. wing seat be shimed? or cut down on one side ?
 
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