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glow engines in carry on luggage?

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Frank - 01 Jun 2004 05:15 GMT
Has anyone taken glow engines on a plane before? I'm flying for an event and
have a couple engines I'd like to take with me, but not if I'm going to run
into trouble at the airport.
JohnT. - 01 Jun 2004 18:51 GMT
You might be better off putting them in check in luggage, but if you
don't have any, or don't trust the TSA baggage checkers, then put them
in your carry on and expect them to inspect your bags after the X-ray.

John
Paul McIntosh - 01 Jun 2004 21:45 GMT
Make sure you don't have a prop on them as they could be considered weapons!
The TSA (and everyone else for that matter) has gone very far off the deep
end in what they classify as weapons and dangerous articles.

Finger nail files on clippers??? Get real!  They let on FAR more dangerous
objects than that.
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Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> You might be better off putting them in check in luggage, but if you
> don't have any, or don't trust the TSA baggage checkers, then put them
> in your carry on and expect them to inspect your bags after the X-ray.
>
> John
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 02 Jun 2004 04:22 GMT
Yeah, like common sharpened #2 pencils.... quite effective weapon. Can
be shoved thru an eye into the brain, or directly into the heart!

And they do not consficate credit cards....... one edge can be
sharpened to rival a box cutter.  Does not hold the edge, but how many
cuts do you need to make?

David


>Make sure you don't have a prop on them as they could be considered weapons!
>The TSA (and everyone else for that matter) has gone very far off the deep
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>> John
Jack Goff - 03 Jun 2004 02:36 GMT
> Make sure you don't have a prop on them as they could be considered weapons!
> The TSA (and everyone else for that matter) has gone very far off the deep
> end in what they classify as weapons and dangerous articles.
>
> Finger nail files on clippers??? Get real!  They let on FAR more dangerous
> objects than that.

Last year my wife and I flew cross-country to do a week in the wine country
of California.  After the flight out there and the return to the east coast,
she happened to look in her pocketbook and noticed that she had carried her
pepper spray on the entire trip.  In her pocketbook, on the plane, through
airport security.

Jack
David AMA40795 / KC5UH - 04 Jun 2004 04:58 GMT
But that's not a weapon..... only nail clippers and the like ! ;-]

David

>> Make sure you don't have a prop on them as they could be considered
>weapons!
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>
>Jack
Sisyphus - 01 Jun 2004 20:44 GMT
When I read your post, I though it was a silly question to ask, but
then I began to wonder myself.  I think it would an arbitrary decision
on the TSA's part as to whether a toy airplane engine represents a
threat to the aircraft, crew and other passengers.  Welcome to the
U.S.S.R.

> Has anyone taken glow engines on a plane before? I'm flying for an event and
> have a couple engines I'd like to take with me, but not if I'm going to run
> into trouble at the airport.
tapio.linkosalo@helsinki.fi.invalid - 01 Jun 2004 20:59 GMT
Freeflight guys travel with engines all the time. The trick seems to be to
wash all fuel residue off the motor, tank and tubing. Especially nitro, as
that will trigger the bomb sniffers. Washed motor should travel without
problems. I suspect there are no sharp parts in the motor that could be
considered dangerous, but I suppose a safe bet would be to allow some extra
time at the airport, and ask the security if the engines should be carry on
luggage or not.

-Tapio-
Dr1Driver - 01 Jun 2004 21:01 GMT
>  I think it would an arbitrary decision
>on the TSA's part as to whether a toy airplane engine represents a
>threat to the aircraft, crew and other passengers.  Welcome to the
>U.S.S.R.

No, in the USSR (which isn't anymore, or did you miss that?) the rules would be
strict and clearly defined.  This is part of the free enterprise/democratic
way.  You have people running security-type jobs who have very little, or no,
training in security.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Sisyphus - 02 Jun 2004 18:03 GMT
We lost The Cold War by becomming our enemy.  Democracy does not
exist, and in fact may never have on a state level.  Free enterprise
cannot exist in a regulated market.  The words 'democracy' and 'free
enterprise' are thrown around so freely that they have lost all
meaning to the new common language.  This deception of terms has
helped to disguise our rapid descent into
collectivism/socialism/statism that has our entire economy planned to
measure and has our industrial/financial sector locked into a
preternatural marrigae with government.  If it is regulated, it is not
free, is it?

Anyway, the USSR was disciplined for shure, but they were not known to
be effiecient or without error.

> >  I think it would an arbitrary decision
> >on the TSA's part as to whether a toy airplane engine represents a
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> Dr.1 Driver
> "There's a Hun in the sun!"
rcflier@nodamnspam_iinet.net.au - 05 Jun 2004 13:40 GMT
I just flew from France to Britain and then back to Australia via
Dubai and Singapore all with stops and xray checks. I carried a Laser
V Twin 50cc in my hand luggage all the way. Only one xray guy showed
any interest and he was a modeller and wanted a look at it.
I removed the carb needles just in case and put them in check in
baggage.

>Has anyone taken glow engines on a plane before? I'm flying for an event and
>have a couple engines I'd like to take with me, but not if I'm going to run
>into trouble at the airport.
 
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