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Dren - 02 Jun 2004 21:16 GMT

I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
some underpowered 3-channel POS.

Was considering a Great Planes Tutor Trainer
(http://www.electrifly.com/gpma0002.html) though I've heard that it
has so much dihedral that the ailerons don't have much effect. Also
was considering the GWS Zero
(http://www.gws.com.tw/english/product/airfly/zero.htm), but that one
looks a little hairy to fly and I might have trouble landing it.

Any suggestions?

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The Natural Philosopher - 02 Jun 2004 21:56 GMT

> I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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> Any suggestions?

GWS formosa.

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ROBBIE - 03 Jun 2004 07:07 GMT

GWS Slow Stick

> > I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> > to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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> GWS formosa.

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The Natural Philosopher - 03 Jun 2004 09:59 GMT

> GWS Slow Stick

Its not 4 channel. The formosa is.
Its also reaosnably aerobatic, and with LIPOS seriously so. With a
brushless its formidable.

>>>I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
>>>to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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>>GWS formosa.

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Doug McLaren - 03 Jun 2004 16:50 GMT

| > GWS Slow Stick
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| Its not 4 channel.

It is if you build it so.

If you look here in the instructions --

http://www.gws.com.tw/images/note%20book/e_slowstick_09.jpg

in figure 14, you see that they've even cut out the ailerons for you.
You just have to decide if you want to use them or not.

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Ash Wyllie - 03 Jun 2004 13:49 GMT

ROBBIE opined

>GWS Slow Stick

I have a Mini blue Max, and love it.

>> > I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
>> > to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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>> GWS formosa.

-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

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WTH - 02 Jun 2004 22:37 GMT

Dren <iq6l8hp7e34001@sneakemail.com> bored us with:

> I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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> Any suggestions?

I built a GWS cub trainer park flyer and my second plane (2 weeks later) is
the GWS P-51D park flyer. The P-51D by GWS is FANTASTIC. Easy to put
together, great looking, and you can use a four bladed prop for a more scale
appearance. I love this plane. Oh, btw, you can put retracts on it if you
wish ;).

WTH

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Brad Lorance - 03 Jun 2004 00:00 GMT

build yourself a foamie with a brushless motor and lipo's. Check out
www.foamyfactory.com

Brad

> I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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> Any suggestions?

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Mike R. - 03 Jun 2004 03:44 GMT

> I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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>
> Any suggestions?

underpowered 3-channel POS.

I have a GWS Slow Stick....3 ch....will loop and continue to loop
from level flight. If your good...like me...you can stand it on tail
and hover it for alittle. PLENTY OF POWER

I've never flown before

Then I suggest you get a inexpensive 2 ch POS and master it before
you decide on 4ch.......take this suggestion if you are going solo;
otherwise you are going to CRASH if you try 4 ch. If you know a club
or someone to train you.....then go 4 ch.

Mike

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MikeF - 06 Jun 2004 11:25 GMT

Since youve never flown before, Id avoid the warbirds. They need to fly fast, and they are
not terribly forgiving. I tried a GWS Zero as a second plane after my slowstick, and i
crashed maybe 20 times while accumulating no more than 3 minutes of airtime total. Then I
tried an Estarter, and could fly it no problem. Loops easily. Will roll - but its clumsy
like most high wing trainer types. Flys inverted fairly well. Its not terribly powerful
but not bad. Cant carry the GWS floats though. Damned shame too, they look SWEET on her.
Im about to try lipos to see if the weight savings helps with the floats...
I dont have a formosa, but its likely my next plane, as ive heard all the raves too for a
while now.

> I'm looking to buy a 4-channel park flyer that at least has the power
> to loop from level flight. I've never flown before, but I don't want
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> Any suggestions?

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astroflyer - 06 Jun 2004 12:03 GMT

>but not bad. Cant carry the GWS floats though. Damned shame too, they look SWEET on her.

That's odd..perhaps you have the one with the earlier motors. we
carry the GWS floats on several at our field. in fact we do touch and
goes on the water with ease. we've even taken one off wet grass with
floats attached. no problem. seven cells and the 350 motor/gearbox.

cheers
Papa Sharptooth

Bouncing about the living room, my then three year old grandson
declared himself "a kangaroo".
"If you're a Kangaroo, what is Grampie", I ask.
His reply: "you a dinosaur"

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MikeF - 07 Jun 2004 09:56 GMT

Really? i definitely have the 350 - c gear, 10x8 prop, everything stock, AERT with pico's
running nice 7cell KAN 1050's. I suspect my KANs are a bit heavier than most batteries
though. Once i get my PSU built for my new charger, i'll try this new lipo ive got
collecting dust.
I was also told to check the AOA of the floats vs the wing. Problem is that i dont know
what it should be...?
The instructions with the floats are useless.

> >but not bad. Cant carry the GWS floats though. Damned shame too, they look SWEET on her.
>
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> "If you're a Kangaroo, what is Grampie", I ask.
> His reply: "you a dinosaur"

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astroflyer - 07 Jun 2004 12:45 GMT

>Really? i definitely have the 350 - c gear, 10x8 prop, everything stock, AERT with pico's
>running nice 7cell KAN 1050's. I suspect my KANs are a bit heavier than most batteries
>though. Once i get my PSU built for my new charger, i'll try this new lipo ive got
>collecting dust.

it should fly just fine then. we've been using 7 hecells 1100 mah,
but just recently our local supplier has been selling 1050 KANS.
don't see any difference with them...same perfromance.

One of the guys this weekend tried a 2 cell lithium. slightly less
power there, but still flies with the floats with ease.

quite a few of these little birds at our field. Yesterday mornign
there were two new ones, both of these had the new speed400 setup.
One of them took off dry grass with the floats. needed a push to get
it started, but after that no problem. just took off like normal.
Both were using eight cells in this configuration ...1050 KANS.

cheers
Papa Sharptooth

Bouncing about the living room, my then three year old grandson
declared himself "a kangaroo".
"If you're a Kangaroo, what is Grampie", I ask.
His reply: "you a dinosaur"

>I was also told to check the AOA of the floats vs the wing. Problem is that i dont know
>what it should be...?
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>> "If you're a Kangaroo, what is Grampie", I ask.
>> His reply: "you a dinosaur"

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MikeF - 08 Jun 2004 11:20 GMT

Thanks. I'll try it again. Maybe the Ezone guys can help with the AoA and stuff. I dunked
her several times in my initial attempt, id like to minimize that. It ruined a
motor...though i suspect the motor may have been on the way out anyway. Mighta been part
of my problem.

> >Really? i definitely have the 350 - c gear, 10x8 prop, everything stock, AERT with pico's
> >running nice 7cell KAN 1050's. I suspect my KANs are a bit heavier than most batteries
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> >> "If you're a Kangaroo, what is Grampie", I ask.
> >> His reply: "you a dinosaur"

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looking for a good park flyer