I have just ordered a Saito 4 stroke for my 1/6 Cub.
Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted. This would
give a more scale look.
However I do notice most engines are mounted on their side.
Thank you
Carl Anderson
Delta B.C.
Can.
Dr1Driver - 03 Jun 2004 17:46 GMT
>Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted.
Watch out for flooding and "hydrolock". That's when the fuel completely fills
the combustion chamber. When you try to spin it with an electric starter, you
stand a chance of bending the con rod.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Paul McIntosh - 03 Jun 2004 17:56 GMT
You can have more problems with fuel flow and flooding if you mount the tank
too high. Many times, inverted engined end up with the carb well below the
tank. You can eliminate most problems by installing a regulated fuel pump,
but moving the tank to the right height is the best solution.
Another problem is over priming and getting hydro-lock. Too much fuel in
the cylinder can cause a bent rod if you crank it hard.
--
Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> I have just ordered a Saito 4 stroke for my 1/6 Cub.
> Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted. This would
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> Delta B.C.
> Can.
carl anderson - 04 Jun 2004 01:01 GMT
I have definetly decided not to install my precious Saito 4 stroke upside
down.
Maybe it can be done with two stroke.
Thankyou very much for the info Paul and Dr1
Carl.
> I have just ordered a Saito 4 stroke for my 1/6 Cub.
> Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted. This would
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> Delta B.C.
> Can.
James D Jones - 04 Jun 2004 20:28 GMT
Actually, mounting an engine upside down is more of a problem for a
two-stroke than for a four-stroke. Most 4-strokes, including Saito,
have valves in the head. This makes them difficult to liquid lock.
Opening the exhaust valve will drain the engine.
Most engines run best with their tanks at the proper height. So paying
attention to that is a good idea anyway. I routinely run Saito engines
inverted without any problem. Don't prime before applying the starter,
and you shouldn't have a problem. Hand starting also works.
Don't let the doom sayers talk you out of it.
Jim - AMA 501383
> I have definetly decided not to install my precious Saito 4 stroke
> upside down. Maybe it can be done with two stroke. Thank you very much
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>> more scale look. However I do notice most engines are mounted on
>> their side. Thank you Carl Anderson Delta B.C. Can.
Paul McIntosh - 04 Jun 2004 21:43 GMT
How do you open the exhaust valve to drain the fuel? Turning the engine
over backwards forces the fuel up the inlet pipe.
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Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> Actually, mounting an engine upside down is more of a problem for a
> two-stroke than for a four-stroke. Most 4-strokes, including Saito,
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> >> more scale look. However I do notice most engines are mounted on
> >> their side. Thank you Carl Anderson Delta B.C. Can.
James D Jones - 05 Jun 2004 17:27 GMT
Turning the engine over in either direction will open the exhaust valve
on every other cycle. If there is fuel in the head, gravity will cause
it to drain out the exhaust pipe. Sure, turning the engine over will
also cause fuel mixed with air to be ingested on the intake stroke, but
if the engine isn't choked, that is not a problem. However, it makes
sense to use a metered glow lighter so as to ensure that the glow plug
is lit before attempting a start.
Jim - AMA 501383
> How do you open the exhaust valve to drain the fuel? Turning the
> engine over backwards forces the fuel up the inlet pipe.
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>>>> are mounted on their side. Thank you Carl Anderson Delta B.C.
>>>> Can.
Paul McIntosh - 05 Jun 2004 19:16 GMT
The exhaust valve doesn't open until after the power stroke, which is where
the hydrolock will occur. If the engine is flooded, it is likely at the
power stroke and not the exhaust stroke.
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Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> Turning the engine over in either direction will open the exhaust valve
> on every other cycle. If there is fuel in the head, gravity will cause
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> >>>> are mounted on their side. Thank you Carl Anderson Delta B.C.
> >>>> Can.
Gord Schindler - 04 Jun 2004 02:14 GMT
Just about all my motors are mounted inverted, 2 and 4 stroke. Don't make a
hoot of difference. It does not hurt to have the tank CL a bit lower than
normal so as to discourage flooding at rest.
Gord Schindler
MAAC6694
> I have just ordered a Saito 4 stroke for my 1/6 Cub.
> Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted. This would
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> Delta B.C.
> Can.
jjvb - 04 Jun 2004 14:18 GMT
To prevent flooding, it would help to keep a hemostat or other clamp on the
fuel line until you get ready to start it. It might not be possible
depending on how your cowl is set up.
John VB
> I have just ordered a Saito 4 stroke for my 1/6 Cub.
> Is there any reason I shouldent position the engine inverted. This would
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> Delta B.C.
> Can.