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Cutting Fiberglass?

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PCPhill - 08 Jun 2004 21:40 GMT
I need to cut the center section out of a large radial cowl, and enlarge the
opening in some fiberglass wheelpants.

I'd appreciate input on the best tool to use to get a good clean cut.  A
specific dremel bit perhaps?

TIA
   PCPhill
Dr1Driver - 08 Jun 2004 22:10 GMT
>I'd appreciate input on the best tool to use to get a good clean cut.

Use a spiral cutter to come close, then a sanding drum to trim it down.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
quietguy - 09 Jun 2004 00:29 GMT
But do not forget the mask and goggles - fibreglass dust and particles are
not to be trifled with - very nasty

David

> >I'd appreciate input on the best tool to use to get a good clean cut.
>
> Use a spiral cutter to come close, then a sanding drum to trim it down.
> Dr.1 Driver
> "There's a Hun in the sun!"
PCPhill - 09 Jun 2004 01:44 GMT
Advice and warning noted.  I need to stop living dangerously, one day it's
going to come back and bite me!

Thanks DR1Driver and David

PCPhill

> But do not forget the mask and goggles - fibreglass dust and particles are
> not to be trifled with - very nasty
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> > Dr.1 Driver
> > "There's a Hun in the sun!"
Paul McIntosh - 09 Jun 2004 07:38 GMT
I can't remember who makes them, but there are small bits made with carbide
grit fused to steel bases that work REAL well for this.  They don't clog and
cut very well.

--
Paul McIntosh
http://www.rc-bearings.com
> I need to cut the center section out of a large radial cowl, and enlarge the
> opening in some fiberglass wheelpants.
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> TIA
>     PCPhill
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 09 Jun 2004 16:18 GMT
> I need to cut the center section out of a large radial cowl, and enlarge
> the opening in some fiberglass wheelpants.

> I'd appreciate input on the best tool to use to get a good clean cut.  A
> specific dremel bit perhaps?

I cut holes in a beautiful Great Planes Wagstaff Extra cowl by
starting in the center of the material to be removed with a
drill.

I enlarged the hole using whatever worked.

I approached the edges with a Dremel grinding stone--the
red ones, that are pretty rough.

Final shaping of the holes and smoothing of the edges were done with
various grits of sandpaper mounted on various roundish things
(dowels, magic markers, brass tubes--whatever seemed best
for the radius I wanted).

I think Harry Higley shows another technique for removing
great big pieces of cowls, but I may be mistaken.  The picture
I seem to misremember showed lots of drill holes marking
out the area to be removed.  After drilling them, you connect
the dots with a hobby knife, then go to work on the edges
to round them out.

I think I may also have used cut-off wheels to cut big
chunks out of the bottom of the cowl.  

The whole strategy I envision is to creep up on the desired
line in small steps rather than to try to make one perfect
cut.  Of course, if you've got a CAD-driven Dremel,
nevermind what I just said.  :o)

                    Marty
PCPhill - 09 Jun 2004 18:39 GMT
Thanks Martin,

I picked up a spiral cutter for my dremel this AM, per DR1Driver's
suggestion.  I already have a drum sander bit, so if I don't get too
aggresive with the cutting I should be alright.  Fortunately I just have to
cut out the big center disk of the cowl, which is easy to see.  No funky
measurements for the cylinder or carb, as this one is using electrons.

I need to get the Higly books someday,  I've heard nothing but good about
them.  Anyone selling some used ones cheap out there?

   Phill

> I cut holes in a beautiful Great Planes Wagstaff Extra cowl by
> starting in the center of the material to be removed with a
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>
> Marty
Richard Crapp - 10 Jun 2004 08:40 GMT
>I can't remember who makes them, but there are small bits made with carbide
>grit fused to steel bases that work REAL well for this.  They don't clog and
>cut very well.

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jeboba - 10 Jun 2004 17:30 GMT
I use one of the grinding stones for the dremel tool. They work great. Cuts
fast. Won't fill up, and the stone isn't effected by the f'glass. I also use
a sanding drum to get the edges straight. The carbide cutters are a pain in
the $#^! The spiral cutter is too hard to control and gets away from me.

> I need to cut the center section out of a large radial cowl, and enlarge the
> opening in some fiberglass wheelpants.
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> TIA
>     PCPhill
PS2727 - 11 Jun 2004 02:35 GMT
When I need to make a cutout yet keep both parts ( a hatch ), I use a razor
saw. I start by marking out the cut then scoring along the lines with an Xacto
and straight edge, then switch to the saw. The saw will stay in the groove made
by the knife. This method makes the smallest kerf, at least smaller than with a
cutoff wheel in the Dremel.
PCPhill - 11 Jun 2004 03:19 GMT
It sounds pratical for straight cuts, but I have a circle to cut out.

Thanks,
           PCPhill

> When I need to make a cutout yet keep both parts ( a hatch ), I use a razor
> saw. I start by marking out the cut then scoring along the lines with an Xacto
> and straight edge, then switch to the saw. The saw will stay in the groove made
> by the knife. This method makes the smallest kerf, at least smaller than with a
> cutoff wheel in the Dremel.
PCPhill - 11 Jun 2004 03:18 GMT
I have a 10" diameter circle to play with in the middle of the cowl.  Sounds
like experimentation may be my best bet (and practice!)

PCPhill

> I use one of the grinding stones for the dremel tool. They work great. Cuts
> fast. Won't fill up, and the stone isn't effected by the f'glass. I also use
> a sanding drum to get the edges straight. The carbide cutters are a pain in
> the $#^! The spiral cutter is too hard to control and gets away from me.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 11 Jun 2004 03:59 GMT
>I have a 10" diameter circle to play with in the middle of the cowl.  Sounds
>like experimentation may be my best bet (and practice!)

Let us know what works best for you.

                    Marty
 
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