Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
things are normally done.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9956080%5E13762,00.html
A SLOVAK pensioner has spent three years building his own plane in his
garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
today.

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slk - 28 Jun 2004 16:49 GMT
...the buddy box must be huge.
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
jeboba - 28 Jun 2004 17:15 GMT
I hope he has a good instructor and belongs to the FAI!
> ...the buddy box must be huge.
>
> > Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> > things are normally done.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9956080%5E13762,00.html
> > A SLOVAK pensioner has spent three years building his own plane in his
> > garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> > today.
Bill Sheppard - 28 Jun 2004 17:43 GMT
There's also a French plane called the Cri Cri (Cricket) which carries a
full size pilot and is powered by two model turbines. A Google under
'Cri Cri jet' should bring it up.
Bill(oc)
Ed Cregger - 28 Jun 2004 21:09 GMT
> There's also a French plane called the Cri Cri (Cricket) which carries a
> full size pilot and is powered by two model turbines. A Google under
> 'Cri Cri jet' should bring it up.
> Bill(oc)
I would love to fly that plane. That is one of the few minis or micros that
really interests me.
Ed Cregger
Six_O'Clock_High - 28 Jun 2004 21:12 GMT
Isn't that how the Ultimate Biplane came to existance?
> There's also a French plane called the Cri Cri (Cricket) which carries a
> full size pilot and is powered by two model turbines. A Google under
> 'Cri Cri jet' should bring it up.
> Bill(oc)
Lyman Slack - 28 Jun 2004 21:29 GMT
Don't know about that, but Phil Kraft (of Kraft Radio fame)used his "Quick
Fly" model to base a full scale version. It might have been spelled
differently, like Quik Fly???
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> Isn't that how the Ultimate Biplane came to existance?
Lyman Slack - 29 Jun 2004 13:28 GMT
WHOOPS!
My error, it was Phil Kraft's "Super Fli" that was first a model,
then made into a IAC Aerobatic aircraft. Try it in Google and you'll see
some photos.
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"Lyman Slack" <lyslack@bellsouth.net> > Don't know about that, but Phil
Kraft (of Kraft Radio fame)used his "Quick
> Fly" model to base a full scale version. It might have been spelled
> differently, like Quik Fly???
C.O.Jones - 29 Jun 2004 22:02 GMT
As I recall it was a sweet airplane. Plans should be available from
someone.
Chuck
> WHOOPS!
>
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> > Fly" model to base a full scale version. It might have been spelled
> > differently, like Quik Fly???
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 28 Jun 2004 22:23 GMT
>Isn't that how the Ultimate Biplane came to existance?
Short answer: Nope.
I've interviewed Gordon Price via e-mail many times and once
in person.
I've got a section of my website devoted to the history of
the Ultimate:
<http://moleski.net/ULTBIPE/index.htm>
If you don't want to read the pages, here is a slightly
abridged answer:
Gordon designed the biplane after making parts to
improve the Pitts.
He designed it according to his own theories of what was
necessary to get a high roll rate for aerobatic competition
and to produce a good-looking aircraft.
After the 10-100 appeared, Gordon acted as a judge in
TOC competitions. So he hung out with a lot of RC people
and talked design with them.
How much these conversations influenced the 10-200 and
the 10-300 is anybody's guess. It's conceivable to me that
Gordon may have seen something he liked in the RC models;
it's also conceivable that they had nothing to do with what
he had learned from the 10-100.
Marty
Six_O'Clock_High - 29 Jun 2004 05:52 GMT
> >Isn't that how the Ultimate Biplane came to existance?
>
> Short answer: Nope.
> I've interviewed Gordon Price via e-mail many times and once
> in person.
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>
> Marty
Thanks
dingo - 28 Jun 2004 18:57 GMT
well its almost the cheapest way of flying. it save you a tramsitter,
receiver , and servo's.
requires just a little more wood& gleu .
TM
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
MJC - 28 Jun 2004 21:05 GMT
Yea, but the funeral expenses can be a real killer :-)
MJC
> well its almost the cheapest way of flying. it save you a tramsitter,
> receiver , and servo's.
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> > Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> > things are normally done.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9956080%5E13762,00.html
> > A SLOVAK pensioner has spent three years building his own plane in his
> > garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> > today.
Ed Cregger - 28 Jun 2004 21:10 GMT
> Yea, but the funeral expenses can be a real killer :-)
Yeah, but sooner or later they pop up anyway. Enjoy life while you can.
Ed Cregger
Joe D. - 28 Jun 2004 19:16 GMT
Once upon a time I remember reading about someone building a 1:1
experimental plane which was a duplicate of an Ugly Stick. Anyone heard if
this ever flew?
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
Ed Cregger - 28 Jun 2004 21:11 GMT
> Once upon a time I remember reading about someone building a 1:1
> experimental plane which was a duplicate of an Ugly Stick. Anyone heard if
> this ever flew?
No, but I do recall seeing a huge model of an ugly stick somewhere over the
years. IIRC, it used a two-cylinder modified Volkswagen engine.
Ed Cregger
Black Cloud - 29 Jun 2004 01:41 GMT
What I want ot know is how it weighs 280 Kilometers?????
Jim W
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
Don Hatten - 29 Jun 2004 01:42 GMT
It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
Black Cloud - 29 Jun 2004 02:41 GMT
Fiction.
> It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
>
> > Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> > things are normally done.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9956080%5E13762,00.html
> > A SLOVAK pensioner has spent three years building his own plane in his
> > garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> > today.
Don Hatten - 29 Jun 2004 02:46 GMT
Was it? How do you know Otto Timm wasn't a modeler who took different model
airplanes and made them other model airplanes?
http://stripe.colorado.edu/~steinerd/Phoenix.html
I guess they are all fiction until they fly.
Don
> Fiction.
> > It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
Black Cloud - 30 Jun 2004 02:52 GMT
The movie was just a story. At least as far as I know it was. Does someone
know any different???
Jim W
> Was it? How do you know Otto Timm wasn't a modeler who took different model
> airplanes and made them other model airplanes?
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> > Fiction.
> > > It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
The Natural Philosopher - 30 Jun 2004 09:23 GMT
> The movie was just a story. At least as far as I know it was. Does someone
> know any different???
Not sure if it was based on fact, but the pilot was killed flying the
model they made for the film.
C.O.Jones - 30 Jun 2004 22:03 GMT
> The movie was just a story. At least as far as I know it was. Does someone
> know any different???
>
> Jim W
I seem to recall hearing that it was based on a true story. But that was
many years ago and I could be wrong.
Chuck
Don't be confused! I'm not contributing!
Don Hatten - 01 Jul 2004 02:02 GMT
It was just a story but the point was a couple of planes were cobbled into
another plane to be used in the movie. The movie plane was designed by Otto
Timm...how do we know he was not a modeler? :-)
Don
> The movie was just a story. At least as far as I know it was. Does someone
> know any different???
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> > > Fiction.
> > > > It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
Hugh Prescott - 30 Jun 2004 04:21 GMT
The story was fiction but Paul Mantz built the airplane used to make the
movie.
Remember also that he lost his life flying it while making the movie but the
plane did really fly. It was not very controlable according to all reports.
Hugh
> Fiction.
> > It's been done...see "Flight of the Phoenix"
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> > > Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com
> > > Computers save time like kudzu prevents soil erosion.
pcoopy - 30 Jun 2004 03:13 GMT
I've been told several times over the years that the Proctor Antic has
been built and flown people size carrying the builder. It may be
documented somewhere.
Phil AMA609
> Cute story, though he seems to have things backwards from the way
> things are normally done.
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> garage, using only a model plane as guide, local agencies reported
> today.
C.O.Jones - 30 Jun 2004 22:05 GMT
> I've been told several times over the years that the Proctor Antic has
> been built and flown people size carrying the builder. It may be
> documented somewhere.
>
> Phil AMA609
Wouldn't surprise me! I've thought of that myself several times though my
preference is the Mini Antic. Biggest mistake is to over power them.
Chuck
Still not contributing!