Hi,
I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
a disadvantaged person become introduced into this hobby. He doesn't
have the means to be extravagant so I want to help him out a little.
He seems to prefer helicopters but according to what I have seen on
the web they seem expensive to purchase and maintain. I figure that he
would love an RC airplane almost as much. Anything to get him started
in the hobby.
Anyway, my local hobby shops got junk at low prices and, of course,
really neat stuff at high prices. So, is there any system among hobby
enthusiasts to sell old stuff they don't use anymore or a way to pick
up bits and pieces to get a working craft going? I was into ham radio
and attended giant swap meets where I could pick up tons of junk I
could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?
Rumprider - 29 Jun 2004 14:41 GMT
Why don't you buy him a flight sim??
> Hi,
> I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
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> could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
> gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?
Dr1Driver - 29 Jun 2004 14:47 GMT
>So, is there any system among hobby
>enthusiasts to sell old stuff they don't use anymore or a way to pick
>up bits and pieces to get a working craft going?
Sure. Although the suggestion of a Flight Simulator is good, it could be as
much or more than a used plane.
Ask for the location of local clubs at your hobby shop. Go out and ask about
used equipment and instruction programs. Most clubs have instructors who will
teach you to fly at no charge, although membership is usually required. You
can also buy a cheap, little "park flyer", but that might be more frustration
than it's worth.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"
Bobby Galvez - 29 Jun 2004 17:17 GMT
> Hi,
> I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
> gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?
You're right about helicopters probably getting pricey. They're more
complex machines and they are harder to fly.
It appears that the quickest and perhaps least expensive way to get your
friend started would be to look at electric park flyers. Not all of them
are junk.
GWS has an interesting starter airplane in the Slow Stick. It looks
awkward and ungainly, but it has taught a lot of people to fly RC, and
then has also become a platform for such activities as aerial photography
and aerial video.
A starter set built around the Slow Stick can be had for under $ 200. In
fact, GWS Expert has a package offered online for $ 108 with a 730 mAh
NiMH battery pack. It has everything except the battery charger. If you
stick with NiCad or NiMH batteries, there's a charger for those available
at $ 40. That has the package at $ 148.00 An extra battery pack or two is
a good idea, each pack is about $ 16.00. So, with two extra battery packs
it adds up to about $ 190.00 in new stuff.
http://www.gwsexpert.com
The basic kit, airplane and motor, sells for $ 35. If you're willing to do
the rounds of swap meets, you'll need two small servos, a receiver, an
electronic speed controller ( ESC), battery pack(s) (probably not less
than 750 mAh), a battery charger, and a transmitter. Ask questions and
tell folks what you're looking to put together and you'll find lots of
help.
GWS has a starter transmitter with 4 channels that is quite affordable. At
swap meets you should be able to find something like a JR Quattro or a JR
421 EX at a moderate price. Be sure to match the transmitter channel and
the receiver crystal channel.
The advantage to electric is that if there is an open area nearby where a
plane can be flown safely, and where there is no prohibition in place,
there's no need to drive to a club field. A Slow Stick is quite
manageable, even for a beginner, on a softball field.
It's a good idea to take membership in the AMA and to observe the AMA
Safety Code. Member flyers who operate within the Code can be covered by
liability insurance.
It's also a good idea to find someone who can help your friend learn to
fly and avoid the frustrations of breaking the plane and either having to
go home to make repairs or to the hobby shop or computer looking for
spares.
Hope this has helped.
Cheers!!!
BobbyG
The Natural Philosopher - 30 Jun 2004 12:28 GMT
>>Hi,
>>I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
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> You're right about helicopters probably getting pricey. They're more
> complex machines and they are harder to fly.
I would not even contempalte buying a $500 chopper till I could fly te
pants offf one on et simulatr.
So far I achieve about one successful landing in 5, in calm winds on the
sim.
<snip good stuff about slow sticks>
I DIDN'T learn on a slow stik, but I wish I had, ideal trainer.
A lot depends in what way your friend is 'disdvantaged' tho. I hate that
word.
If he is blind, it ain't gonna work. If he is paraplegic, no reason not
to be as good as anyone else. I've got a polio paraplegic friend who
used to fly RC. He gets very depressed and I keep offering to let him
fly mine. He won't tho :(
If he has motor control dysfunction, its gonna be hard, but very doable.
If he's got brain damage its a hard call.
I wish you luck tho, but would say that if the guy can fly a simulator,
hes 75% there. If I had a real good freind like that I'd buy him a sim.
If he succeeded with that, I'd buy a slowstik.
AAA - 29 Jun 2004 18:36 GMT
Sure thing. I mailed you $20 today.
> Hi,
> I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
> gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?
St.Cloud - 02 Jul 2004 01:43 GMT
>Sure thing. I mailed you $20 today.
Very funny. Seriously . . . I'm laughing. On the inside where it
counts. Anyway, I'd say you don't have my address for the $20. And if
you did I would send it back. Minus the cost of the return postage of
course ;)
I am looking for a bargain, not a donation. I appreciate the
information most of you have given. Thanks.
Ted Campanelli - 29 Jun 2004 19:30 GMT
On 6/29/2004 8:59 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
Someone mentioned a flight simulator. There is a free D/L available.
It is called FMS. You will need to supply the transmitter (usually your
own) and an interface cable (about $20 on EBay). It is a pretty decent
simulator with loads of different type planes (and helicopters)
available for free - just D/L.
> Hi,
> I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
> gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?
Morris Lee - 30 Jun 2004 19:11 GMT
> On 6/29/2004 8:59 AM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these
> great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:
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> simulator with loads of different type planes (and helicopters)
> available for free - just D/L.
FMS will give a total newbie a fair introduction into model aircraft as long
as they know the real thing isn't going to behave exactly like its simulated
counterpart. Also, the guy he's helping may be financially disadvantaged
(I'll guess that's what he means) enough not to be able to afford a
computer. :(
Morris
C.O.Jones - 29 Jun 2004 21:51 GMT
Best bet is to get with the local club. The local hobby shop should know
who and where. Failing that, hit the AMA web site:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/
More specific would be:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/clubsearch.aspx?sid=05E7A0BB9ECE4C688
57C42F32529A989
Enter your zip code and see what shows up.
Chuck
> Hi,
> I do not know anything about the RC flying hobby. I would like to help
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> could put together and use and not spend a ton of cash. You guys and
> gals got anything like that in S.W. PA for RC flying?