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Battery Unused Shelf Life

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Wayne R. Russ - 19 Jul 2004 11:08 GMT
Hello Everyone,

   Can someone tell me The "Approximate" Shelf Life of an uncharged, unused
battery like the,

LX2681 Tower Hobbies 12V 4.5A Maintenance-Free Starter Battery ?

I mean, is it like in the weeks, months, years, decades ?  If you bought one
now and did not use it, at what point would you be afraid to use it ?

Any help, or advice is Greatly Appreciated,

Wayne R. Russ
Charlie H. - 19 Jul 2004 12:48 GMT
since it is a 12v field battery, I would never be afraid of trying it out
charge it up and use it, if it won't work throw it away
there is really no risk factor associated with this battery
Charlie
Doug McLaren - 19 Jul 2004 15:32 GMT
| since it is a 12v field battery, I would never be afraid of trying it out
| charge it up and use it, if it won't work throw it away
| there is really no risk factor associated with this battery

Yes, that is true -- since it's not going in your plane, a failure of
this battery will not crash your plane, so it's not such a big deal.
Though it's failure might mean you can't start your plane, which would
be a bummer.  Test it at home, not at the field.  Outside though --
they can vent hydrogen.

This sort of battery (lead acid, or gel cell) tends to self-discharge
very slowly, often holding a signifigant charge for many months (even
a year or more?) -- which is good.  But once they are discharged, they
slowly ruin themselves.  That's what will destroy them -- not so much
time, but being left discharged for any period of time.

If the battery is dead (not charged) now, it's probably ruined.  If
not, it's probably ok.  In the former case, you can try to charge it
and it's possible it'll come back, and some people have had luck
hitting them with (slightly) higher than normal voltages to bring them
back to life, but I've never had much success there.

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©olin - 19 Jul 2004 19:31 GMT
Used to spend a lot of time with battery charging during my national service
days in the RAF. [ that dates me :o) ] We had a lot of success reviving dead
batteries by emptying out the acid, washing out with distilled water then
refilling with fresh acid. But it does depend on the reason they died.

Colin

> | since it is a 12v field battery, I would never be afraid of trying it out
> | charge it up and use it, if it won't work throw it away
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> hitting them with (slightly) higher than normal voltages to bring them
> back to life, but I've never had much success there.
Six_O'Clock_High - 20 Jul 2004 02:43 GMT
Kinda hard to do with a gel cell. .  .   .

> Used to spend a lot of time with battery charging during my national service
> days in the RAF. [ that dates me :o) ] We had a lot of success reviving dead
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> > hitting them with (slightly) higher than normal voltages to bring them
> > back to life, but I've never had much success there.
Wayne R. Russ - 20 Jul 2004 01:58 GMT
Thank You for all the good information everyone. Good point. A dead field
battery won't knock an expensive plane out of the air. It just might not let
it in the air to start with.

Again Thank You So Very Much,

Wayne R. Russ

> Hello Everyone,
>
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>
> Wayne R. Russ
Charlie H. - 21 Jul 2004 03:10 GMT
I have just bought a field charger and reworked my flight  / fueling /
starting box.
It is now two completely separate units, one being tools and stuff, the
other being a fueler / starter box.
The tools and stuff box has the field charger on it and I would like for it
to have its own battery.
I have a 12v 7amp gel cell battery left over from an APC that is completely
dead, it has been living in my garage for about two years.
I have the battery on the charger that came with my electric starter combo
right now.
If it doesn't charge I will try to jump start it with jumper cables and my
truck alternator.
I will let you know what happens in a day or so.
Charlie

> Hello Everyone,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Wayne R. Russ
Charlie H. - 22 Jul 2004 01:26 GMT
The battery appears to have taken the charge using the wall wart charger
that came with the starter kit.
It is currently reading 12.8 v, if the battery does not hold the charge I
will report back again.
Charlie
Red Scholefield - 22 Jul 2004 13:37 GMT
My bet is that it won't if what I read earlier was correct. The voltage was
below 10 volts or so. That puppy won't bark!
--
Red S.
Red's R/C Battery Clinic
http://www.rcbatteryclinic.com
Check us out for "revolting" information.

> The battery appears to have taken the charge using the wall wart charger
> that came with the starter kit.
> It is currently reading 12.8 v, if the battery does not hold the charge I
> will report back again.
> Charlie
 
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