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Len Cuff - 21 Jul 2004 23:43 GMT
Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
should be?

TIA

cheers,
      Len
Paul McIntosh - 21 Jul 2004 23:29 GMT
Where the plane performs the best.

How the heck can we give you an answer with only part of the information?
What kit is it?  What size?  Etc.

GENERALLY, most planes work best with the CG somewhere between 25-35% back
from the leading edge (or MAC)

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> Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
> should be?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cheers,
>        Len
Ken Day - 24 Jul 2004 06:21 GMT
>Where the plane performs the best.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>GENERALLY, most planes work best with the CG somewhere between 25-35% back
>from the leading edge (or MAC)
As Paul said in an earlier post , we would really need some more
information , but , you can figure it yourself. The Cap 232 CG should
be 25-30% of MAC. 35% is a bit much for the Cap. You can figure the
wing area and then take 25-30% of that, or , if you would like I can
send you a little sketch to show how to locate the MAC (Mean
aerodynamic chord) and you simply measure back 25-30%.
I would recommend about 25% to start.

Ken Day
PaulBK58 - 25 Jul 2004 06:49 GMT
yeah, the guy buys an unnamed cap off ebay and he is supposed to understand
things like MAC?
Paul McIntosh - 25 Jul 2004 12:01 GMT
Why not?    Better he learn it now if he is going to buy used planes with no
documentation.  It is a very simple concept and there are dozens of web
sites that explain it.

Like here:

http://airfieldmodels.com/information_source/math_and_science_of_model_aircr
aft/formulas/mean_aerodynamic_chord.htm

Or here:

http://www.usrcjc.org/howto/MAC.htm

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> yeah, the guy buys an unnamed cap off ebay and he is supposed to understand
> things like MAC?
Ken Day - 27 Jul 2004 06:08 GMT
>yeah, the guy buys an unnamed cap off ebay and he is supposed to understand
>things like MAC?

The main reason I'm reluctant to post on here. Try to help someone and
a smart a** like you shows up to criticize.

First of all , buying a plane from EBay doesn't make you a newbie or
ignorant of aircraft terminolgy , and, even if the man doesn't know
what 'MAC' is , I offered to send him a sketch (very simple)...and
then he WILL know what it is and how to find it on any wing in the
future.
Apparently you haven't been around this group very long, or.... have
lost sight of what this group  is about.....helping and encouraging
one another, and just good ole "BS'ing at times..
If you need to know how to locate the MAC , I'll gladly send you a
sketch also,

Ken Day
Len Cuff - 27 Jul 2004 22:23 GMT
>>yeah, the guy buys an unnamed cap off ebay and he is supposed to understand
>>things like MAC?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Ken Day

Wow a positive response at last!! I've been flying RC planes for quite
a while and this one is for my son. I was hoping that some kind soul
had the same plane and could give me a rough estimate of where the
CofG would be. i.e. 2 or 3 inches from the leading edge.
OK so we bought it off Ebay - he 'totalled' his beloved Flair P51 - so
this is a stop gap until he gets some more cash. At least it keeps him
flying!

cheers,
      Len
Len Cuff - 27 Jul 2004 22:24 GMT
>>yeah, the guy buys an unnamed cap off ebay and he is supposed to understand
>>things like MAC?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Ken Day
Sorry forgot to ask, can you send me the sketch?
len.cuff@ntlworld.com
many thnaks.

cheers,
      Len
Ken Day - 29 Jul 2004 05:34 GMT
>>Ken Day
>Sorry forgot to ask, can you send me the sketch?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cheers,
>       Len

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I'll gladly send you a
sketch.

Ken Day
Len Cuff - 25 Jul 2004 12:20 GMT
>Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
>should be?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cheers,
>       Len

Sorry! It's a FLAIR CAP 232 3D  43 inch wingspan

cheers,
      Len
Len Cuff - 27 Jul 2004 22:36 GMT
>Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
>should be?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cheers,
>       Len
Sorry I upset some folks! I thought that NG's were there to help
people??
Maybe I should stop asking for help?

cheers,
      Len
Paul McIntosh - 27 Jul 2004 22:01 GMT
Len,

Don't let the Todd Klondykes of this newsgroup get to you.  There is plenty
of quality help available.

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> >Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
> >should be?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> cheers,
>        Len
Todd Klondike - 27 Jul 2004 22:03 GMT
Len Cuff <thecuffs@ntlworld.com> posted message
ID<25fdg0dd9urbes3neej7r6uqdgfporus38@4ax.com>on Tue, 27 Jul 2004
21:36:58 GMT

>>Just bought one of these off Ebay and need to know where the C of G
>>should be?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>people??
>Maybe I should stop asking for help?

Naw...keep asking.  You just have to sort through a lot of crap to
find anything worth keeping.

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Len Cuff - 27 Jul 2004 23:08 GMT
>Len Cuff <thecuffs@ntlworld.com> posted message
>ID<25fdg0dd9urbes3neej7r6uqdgfporus38@4ax.com>on Tue, 27 Jul 2004
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
>it."—Gene Spafford

Todd,
    I've asked a lot of 'stupid questions' before and generally
got some good rseponse. Maybe 'the world ' is in a bad mood??

cheers,
      Len
felix72 - 02 Aug 2004 14:56 GMT
Hi, I have a Flair Cap 232 3D.

It's made by China Model Production and its CG shoul be between 75 an
85 mm from the leading eadge. That is what is written on the manual. B

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felix7
Len Cuff - 04 Aug 2004 22:47 GMT
>Hi, I have a Flair Cap 232 3D.
>
>It's made by China Model Production and its CG shoul be between 75 and
>85 mm from the leading eadge. That is what is written on the manual. By
Many many thanks for that!

cheers,
      Len
 
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