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RC Receiver bandwidth

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Robert B. Cummings Sr - 24 Jul 2004 00:55 GMT
   
    can someone give me an idea as to the normal bandwidth of
current RC Receivers? how far off center frequency can the transmitter
be and still work properly?

TIA ..Bruce C
AA2DD
John Berk - 24 Jul 2004 02:53 GMT
If I remember correctly it is 10Khz.

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Paul McIntosh - 25 Jul 2004 00:43 GMT
That is the band width of each channel.  The frequency deviation limit is
quite a bit narrower.

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> If I remember correctly it is 10Khz.
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Robert B. Cummings Sr - 25 Jul 2004 01:12 GMT
thanks guys ....... that helps. gives me a good idea where i am. After
checking my two  transmitters, i was a little nervous about one.

tnx again

Bruce

>That is the band width of each channel.  The frequency deviation limit is
>quite a bit narrower.
Charlie+ - 25 Jul 2004 10:02 GMT
You asked a question about receiver b/w but now you are talking about
your transmitter spot frequencies it seems - unless I misread you!  -
A Tx should be nowhere near 10 kHz off spot frequency - you would be
causing other flyers trouble on closeby channels with this.  I take a
guess guess that your Tx should be an abs. max of 2 kHz off centre for
a Tx at normal temperature and factory settings for new equipment
would probably be tighter than that, I have no detailed knowlege of
the required factory specs - you may find that the spec says you
should only have any error in one direction!
Charlie+

>thanks guys ....... that helps. gives me a good idea where i am. After
>checking my two  transmitters, i was a little nervous about one.
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>>That is the band width of each channel.  The frequency deviation limit is
>>quite a bit narrower.
The Natural Philosopher - 28 Jul 2004 19:19 GMT
> You asked a question about receiver b/w but now you are talking about
> your transmitter spot frequencies it seems - unless I misread you!  -
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> should only have any error in one direction!
> Charlie+

You shoul;d be within abouy 250hx actually. Deviation is IIRC about
2.5khx. The filters are about 6Khz wuide, so correct opertaion has to
put the frequency and its deviations withing the spot +- 3khz.

Thart really leaves you only ab=out 500hz margin.

>>thanks guys ....... that helps. gives me a good idea where i am. After
>>checking my two  transmitters, i was a little nervous about one.
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>>>That is the band width of each channel.  The frequency deviation limit is
>>>quite a bit narrower.
The Natural Philosopher - 28 Jul 2004 19:17 GMT
>    
>     can someone give me an idea as to the normal bandwidth of
> current RC Receivers? how far off center frequency can the transmitter
> be and still work properly?

Filters are generally about 6 kHz wide.

probably no more than a khz off target for proper operation.

And that will risk screwing the next door channel.

> TIA ..Bruce C
> AA2DD
Doug McLaren - 29 Jul 2004 17:39 GMT
| Filters are generally about 6 kHz wide.
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| probably no more than a khz off target for proper operation.
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| And that will risk screwing the next door channel.

... except that the next door R/C channel is 20 khz away, not 10 khz.
Perhaps you were only thinking of R/C channels, perhaps not, but
certainly most people who read your statement will think of it that way.

The spaces between our channels (on the 72 mhz band) is allocated to
things like pagers.  So if your transmitter is slightly off, these are
the things that you'll interfere with, not other fliers unless your
deviation is a lot more than slightly off.

Of course, interfering with these services is illegal.  So keep your
transmitter in tune.  It's not illegal to have a receiver that's out
of tune, but crashed planes due to a pager somewhere are bad too, so
keep them in tune too.

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The Natural Philosopher - 29 Jul 2004 20:07 GMT
> | Filters are generally about 6 kHz wide.
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> ... except that the next door R/C channel is 20 khz away, not 10 khz.

Not in UK, but I forgot I was in merkin land.

> Perhaps you were only thinking of R/C channels, perhaps not, but
> certainly most people who read your statement will think of it that way.
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> of tune, but crashed planes due to a pager somewhere are bad too, so
> keep them in tune too.
Doug McLaren - 29 Jul 2004 21:08 GMT
| > ... except that the next door R/C channel is 20 khz away, not 10 khz.
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| Not in UK, but I forgot I was in merkin land.

Well, I'm not sure where `merkin land' is, but the original poster
appears to be in the US.

Looks like you're in the UK -- but I'll bet you already knew that.  I
guess over there they were a bit smarter when they set up the R/C
band.  Over here, pager towers occasionally crash planes.

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Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com            Fifty watts per channel, babycakes!

jim breeyear - 30 Jul 2004 13:34 GMT
Somewhere I read that there is a guard band between channels (odd) but
they are taken up by pagers. I dont know if this is still the way it is
allocated. Time to do some reading . Also I think this is a good reason
to not interchange crystals with other brands unless you know what you
are doing. Crystals are usually matched to the oscillator design
parameters. Or visa versa.

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> AA2DD
 
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