That depends... RC = Radio Control, or RC = Remote Control? ;-)
Anyhow, it's amazing that anyone can build a powered and controllable
airplane that small...
/Lars
> That depends... RC = Radio Control, or RC = Remote Control? ;-)
>
> Anyhow, it's amazing that anyone can build a powered and controllable
> airplane that small..
Right. I will not argue the semantics. But I would like to know how you
can remotely control this airplane whether it be IR or radio signals.
IR like a TV remote? Makes some kind of magnet move?
m.
KGB - 08 Aug 2004 09:09 GMT
>> That depends... RC = Radio Control, or RC = Remote Control? ;-)
>>
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>
>IR like a TV remote? Makes some kind of magnet move?
Hi
This idea is not new. I can remember reading about something similar
here in the UK about 10 years ago - possibly a lot more (RCM&E
perhaps). Whether it was merely theoretical at that time or had
actually been done I can't remember, but this plane sounds identical
as far as the idea is concerned.
From memory I seem to recall that the wire acting as the "servo" was a
specific length "tuned" to the radio frequency. One end was fixed and
the other connected to the control surface. Transmitting a signal
heated up the wire, which expanded and moved the control surface.
I seem to think that it didn't actually need a receiver - just wire of
the correct tuned length; presumably for 4 function all you would need
is 4 different length pieces of wire, no batteries, no Rx, nothing!!!!
Perhaps somebody else can drag out the article or can remember more
details - we moved house a few years ago and had a ruthless clear out,
including my older RC magazines.
Regards
KGB
Lars Olsen - 08 Aug 2004 17:01 GMT
I don't know all the technical details, as I only use radio control in my
models. But from what I have read, there is a Infrared receiver on the plane
(like in a TV) and some kind of powerful Infrared transmitter attached to
the normal two stick radio transmitter, using the trainer cable.
The IR receiver then controls the motor and magnetic actuators with
"regular" electronics (much smaller than normal ofcourse, as the currents
are much smaller).
The magnetic actuators is, simply put, a double wound coil with a small
permanent magnet suspended inside. When a current flows in the coil, the
magnet turns based on the power and polarity of the current. A rod is then
attached to the magnet, and this is then attached to the rudder. The power
of a magnetic actuator is _much_ less than the power of a regular servo, but
enough to move the rudders of these ultraligth models.
/Lars
> > That depends... RC = Radio Control, or RC = Remote Control? ;-)
> >
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> m.
DejaVU - 10 Aug 2004 09:17 GMT
M-M <nospam@ny.more> scribed in <nospam
-D9E2C4.17592907082004@newnews.netaxs.com>:
>IR like a TV remote? Makes some kind of magnet move?
>
>m.
go and read the flipping thing mate. it SAYS it uses muscle wire for
control. muscle wire is an alloy that changes it's size dramatically
when heated. repeatably. you can heat it by putting enough current
through it. that is what they are doing. 2 Hz control rate. good
thing the plane is stable (-:
swarf, steam and wind
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M-M - 11 Aug 2004 02:26 GMT
> it uses muscle wire for
> control. muscle wire is an alloy that changes it's size dramatically
> when heated. repeatably. you can heat it by putting enough current
> through it. that is what they are doing. 2 Hz control rate.
Thank you for explaining that. But what is the mechanism to control the
current in the wire from the ground?
m-m
DejaVU - 11 Aug 2004 16:31 GMT
M-M <nospam@ny.more> scribed in <nospam
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>> it uses muscle wire for
>
>Thank you for explaining that. But what is the mechanism to
>control the current in the wire from the ground?
the given page image does not state the nature of the transmission.
however, others have surmised it is infrared as radio would be too
heavy
swarf, steam and wind
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