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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Air Models / October 2005AMA Notice
The Academy of Model Aeronautics' Executive Council (EC), the governing body of the organization, and its Executive Director, Don Koranda, have reached a mutual decision not to renew his contract. This decision was made at the EC's quarterly meeting on October 15, 2005. It is effective immediately. Longtime AMA employee Joyce Hager has been appointed staff director and will oversee the day-to-day operations until an interim executive director has been named. "Joyce is an accomplished executive who is well-prepared to fill the association's immediate staff leadership needs while a replacement executive director is sought," said AMA president Dave Brown. "We are very fortunate that she is willing to assume this position." The EC has appointed a three-person search committee charged with locating qualified candidates and making a recommendation to the council. Committee members include the chairman, Richard Hanson (District X), and members Andy Argenio (District I), and Dave Mathewson (District II). Joyce Hager will function as a staff liaison to the committee. The committee's search may take as long as one year. "Reaching consensus on the expectations of an executive director and finding the right person is much more important than filling that permanent position quickly," Brown said. Koranda's departure follows 10 months at the helm of the 165,000-member association. "I knew the risks when I accepted this position and have absolutely no regrets," Koranda said recently in a E-mail to staff and the EC. "I also have no doubt about the direction in which AMA needs to go to meet its full potential. In my view, we accomplished a lot in 10 months." "We will miss the vision Don brought to AMA, and we will do our best to continue many of the programs Don initiated during his tenure," Brown said. I think Horrace should go for this! Assuming of course he doesn't get elected. Then we can really see if he can walk the walk! > The Academy of Model Aeronautics' Executive Council (EC), the governing > body [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > continue many of the programs Don initiated during his tenure," Brown > said. The only good I've seen done by Horrace was to his own ego.. -- fhhuber50677 I agree! But here's his chance to really put up or shut up! But I'm afraid he will do neither! > The only good I've seen done by Horrace was to his own ego... > I agree! But here's his chance to really put up or shut up! But I'm afraid > he will do neither! For you of the UNLEARNED tribe, CJ, there is a difference between a salaried full-time job and a volunteer part-time position. The AMA Executive Director is a salaried full-time job. The AMA Executive Vice President is another thing, a volunteer part - time position, elected by the AMA voting membership. I do understand that a person of your nature may well have great difficulty in separating the two items. Therefore I will not waste additional time explaining even these simple administrative technical details for you to become even more confused with. One thing just for others that may read this, I have absolutely no intention of leaving East-Texas for any full-time job. In fact I presently have no intention of performing any full-time job other than those eternal Honey-Dos that seem to pop-up every time I mix epoxy. It would appear you don't regard being CFO of a multi million dollar non-profit as a full time job either! Otherwise, according to you, you wouldn't have run for the office. But then, you knew from the start that you'd never win so you never really had to worry about putting up. Hence I suspect you will never really shut up either! We'll see what happens now that DK is gone. He was really the best chance the AMA had at doing something but like usual, the AMA had other ideas! >> I agree! But here's his chance to really put up or shut up! But I'm >> afraid [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > presently have no intention of performing any full-time job other than > those eternal Honey-Dos that seem to pop-up every time I mix epoxy. At least Horrace uses his real name and a valid E-mail address :-) Cheers -- \_________Lyman Slack________/ \_______Flying Gators R/C___/ \_____AMA 6430 LM____ / \___Gainesville FL_____/ Visit my Web Site at www.LymanSlack.com > The only good I've seen done by Horrace was to his own ego... > fhhuber506771 Lyman Slack Wrote: > At least Horrace uses his real name and a valid E-mail address :-) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The only good I've seen done by Horrace was to his own ego... > > fhhuber506771 I use my real name and a real e-mail address.... and if you check.. thats my ama numbner on the end of my username. Early in the development of the internet, usernames tended to be firs initial (+ sometimes middle initial) + last name (+ sometimes reference number) Anyone else would have figured it out without me having to tell them -- fhhuber50677 | I use my real name and a real e-mail address.... Ok, but this is a Usenet group. It's fine that you'r reading it on rcgroups, but ultimately it's a Usenet group, not a rcgroups group. And this email address -- From: fhhuber506771 <fhhuber506771.1x7ngb@rcgroups.com> Does NOT look valid. Since it matches the Message-Id, I suspect it's not valid at all. (Though one might guess that with rcgroups that your email address is fhhuber506771@rcgroups.com, but that's just a guess. It's also possible that rcgroups's mail server knows to filter off the .1x7ngb part, perhaps using it to make the email address only usable for a short period of time to combat spam? All speculation though.) | and if you check... thats my ama numbner on the end of my username. Ok, though I would have guessed zip code first, since that's more common. (Not that zip codes have six digits, of course.) Or it could be a birthday or just some random digits because fhhuber was taken. Spammers _very_ often have usernames like yours, with random digits. | Early in the development of the internet, usernames tended to be | first initial (+ sometimes middle initial) + last name (+ sometimes | a reference number) I'm not sure that's related to the Internet. For example, BBSs and other multi-user systems had similar conventions, and they predated the Internet. I guess one could guess from your username that your last name might be Huber, and maybe one might guess that number is your AMA number, but this isn't an AMA group either, and the AMA doesn't really extend outside of the US anyways -- but this group certainly does. | Anyone else would have figured it out without me having to tell them. Um, no. But nice try. Try reading your post in google if you don't have access to a real NNTP server and see what sort of information is available. Sure, you might be able to make out some things (especially since you already know the answers), but you're still pretty much anonymous unless somebody really decides to track you down. | fhhuber506771's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=58094 And your real name isn't found on your profile either. Either way, it's sort of irrelevant -- you don't have to post here with your real name, and you don't have to give a valid email address. However, it is a pretty well established fact that Usenet posts with real names and real email addresses attached to them tend to get taken more seriously than those without. But it's not a big deal -- ultimately it's the content of your posts that matters, not the name on them. (`On this Internet, nobody knows tht you're a dog.' (Not that this is the Internet, but it's close enough.)) And it may be rcgroups's fault that your post's identifying information is somewhat mangled, but whatever the reason, it IS somewhat mangled.  SignatureDoug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft products. So tell me how to prove to you this is my real name? And then tell me why I should trust you with the proof you request and my e-mail address? Why should I trust you? > At least Horrace uses his real name and a valid E-mail address :-) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> The only good I've seen done by Horrace was to his own ego... >> fhhuber506771 Why not? I use mine and have for years. No one has mugged me yet! ;^) CR Chuck Jones wrote: > So tell me how to prove to you this is my real name? And then tell me why I > should trust you with the proof you request and my e-mail address? Why > should I trust you? That's because you haven't acted like a twat on here. CO has reason to be afraid! SignaturePaul McIntosh RC-Bearings.com "when steel just isn't enough" > Why not? I use mine and have for years. No one has mugged me yet! ;^) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> why I should trust you with the proof you request and my e-mail address? >> Why should I trust you? I'm a relatively new member. I'm interested in electric planes - building, flying... I have a question. What is WRONG with you people? There are certain jerks on this group who: A - think they set the rules of life! B - think they run the AMA! C - because of B, think they run the whole hobby! Some of us have the audacity to resist assimilation! > I'm a relatively new member. I'm interested in electric planes - > building, flying... I have a question. > > What is WRONG with you people? I think this gives you a pretty good idea of what's wrong with ONE in particular. In order to be assimilated into the culture or mores of a population or group one generally has to be accepted. We have no evidence of Mr. Jones being accepted in any hobby group other than his own which may exist only in his mind. RS. > There are certain jerks on this group who: > A - think they set the rules of life! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > What is WRONG with you people? And here you have one example of A, B and C all wrapped up into one! Thanks Red for being the great AMA leader you are. >I think this gives you a pretty good idea of what's wrong with ONE in > particular. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > >> > What is WRONG with you people? Let the participants on this forum be the judge. Red S. > And here you have one example of A, B and C all wrapped up into one! > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >> > > >> > What is WRONG with you people? You're assuming they're representative of the modeling community! I have my doubts about that! > Let the participants on this forum be the judge. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> >> > >> >> > What is WRONG with you people? So what's new? You have your doubts about just about everything posted on this newsgroup. They seem pretty representative to me, lots of points of view. With your seemingly low regard for the members of this group it is difficult to understand why you waste your time here. Is your purpose here only to be as obnoxious as possible, something that you could not get away with in a real life situation even at your "private" field for long. RS "Chuck Jones" <ifyouwantit@comeangetit.com> wrote in message > You're assuming they're representative of the modeling community! I have my > doubts about that! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> And here you have one example of A, B and C all wrapped up into one! > >> Thanks Red for being the great AMA leader you are. No Red! Any low regard I have is simply my responding in kind! Except for you of course! For you I simply have no regard. You'll have to work some to get up to low! As for my time here? I came here with questions and met ridicule! From you! You were an a.s to me from day one! As you say, something you could not get away with in a real life situation! Even at your flying fields! Or do you? But not to worry! You answered my questions and made my decisions easy. > So what's new? You have your doubts about just about everything posted on > this newsgroup. They seem pretty representative to me, lots of points of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> And here you have one example of A, B and C all wrapped up into one! >> >> Thanks Red for being the great AMA leader you are. OK, I'll bite. What question did you have that I ridiculed you about? And please don't use the old dodge, "look it up". I get 100's of questions a month so unless yours was of unusual context I probably can't recall it. RS > No Red! Any low regard I have is simply my responding in kind! Except for > you of course! For you I simply have no regard. You'll have to work some [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > But not to worry! You answered my questions and made my decisions easy. Sorry Red! You missed the boat. I asked a simple question and you lead the charge as is typical for you whenever you think someone is attacking the holy of holies, AMA. Pathetic really! A man of your age should know better! But maybe that's the whole problem. > OK, I'll bite. What question did you have that I ridiculed you about? > And [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> But not to worry! You answered my questions and made my decisions easy. OK, so what was your question? When did the AMA quit beating their wife? Again, What question did you have that I or any one else ridiculed you about? To the few that even look at these posts, aren't you curious as to what Chuck's question was? Maybe he will get himself some credibility if he posts the exchange that ridiculed him. But then if he does his usual tap dance to direct questions we will never know what his beef is. I'm surprised you haven't used your typical fall back, "Where's the proof?" The ball is in your pathetic side of the court. RS > Sorry Red! You missed the boat. I asked a simple question and you lead the > charge as is typical for you whenever you think someone is attacking the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > RS Red! You're simply not worth the trouble. Obviously your abilities with the internet are failing. The original question really doesn't matter but, just for the likes of you, I asked why I should be a member of the AMA? Don't bother answering, you already did and I thank you for it. Though saving some $60 a year is nothing to me, I have the pleasure of knowing my name is in no way associated with yours! > OK, so what was your question? When did the AMA quit beating their wife? > Again, What question did you have that I or any one else ridiculed you [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> > >> > RS For someone not worth the trouble you sure don't mind wasting your time jumping on anything and everything some of us post. And the answer that offended you was???? Our standard answer . . .I won't bother to post your negtive response to each and every point. * * BENEFITS OF THE ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS * * PROGRAMS 1. Sanctioned Competitions with over 2,500 annually 2. Assistance in getting and keeping flying sites 3. National Safety Advisory Program and Safety Codes Standard 4. Annual Youth Scholarship Program 5. Youth Education Programs 6. Club chartering Program provides club and site assistance to almost 2,400 clubs 7. Dues structured by age groups ? younger and older modelers pay less 8. Opportunity to serve in leadership roles of Contest Director or Leader Member 9. World Championships Teams selected and financing 10. Support and promotion for the sport of aeromodeling for schools, service groups and clubs 11. Air Show Team Program offers demonstrations of model aircraft to millions of people 12. Club Officer Recognition 13. Members elect corporate officers ? annual elections 14. Mall Show Program for clubs 15. Historic Preservation and Research (Museum, Archives, and Library) 16. Introductory Pilot Program 17. Attend major modeling trade shows for member assistance and provide public awareness 18. Conduct volunteer program for member's participation of the International Aeromodeling Center activities 19. Opportunity to be an elected corporate board member and vote in behalf of the district 20. Leader club recognition 21. Hobby shop display for AMA information center 22. Hall of Fame recognition 23. Experimental Aircraft Inspectors for models over 55 lbs. 24. Turbine Waivers for jet pilots SERVICE 1. Liability Coverage for Operations of Model Aircraft, Boats, Cars and Rockets 2. $2,500,000 Comprehensive General Liability Protection for model activities for members, clubs, site owners and sponsors 3. $25,000 Accident/Medical Coverage for members 4. $10,000 Maximum Accidental Death Coverage for members 5. $1,000 Fire, Theft, and Vandalism Coverage for members 6. Primary Site Owner Insurance ? $5,000,000 each location 7. Published???Financial Information, Contest Calendar, Construction Articles and News 8. Non Profit status to retain income as a Tax Exempt organization under IRS Section 501(c)(3) 9. Accumulated assets ($11 million) 10. Safeguarding radio frequencies through liaison with Federal Communications Commission 11. Achievements recognized through the Awards Program 12. World Record performances processed through F.A.I. 13. Contest scheduling coordination to avoid conflicts 14. National Records recognized and recorded 15. Liaison maintained with major Government agencies (Corp. of Engineers, Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines) 16. Film Library with rentals available to members, clubs and general public 17. National Museum ? Frank V. Ehling National Model Museum ? free admission to all members 18. Museum Store for visitors 19. Museum Patron Program 20. Support and sponsorship of technical meetings 21. American representation to the Federation Aeronautique Internationale (FAI), Paris, France 22. Over forty full time staff members, dedicated to serving all aspects of aeromodeling interests 23. The National Center for Aeromodeling, the world's only full?time model aviation facility 24. Lee Renaud Memorial Library ? more than 25,000 publications and books with research service available 25. Specialty member programs offered only through AMA membership ? Optional insurance, Credit Cards and Eye Care Discounts 26. Serving aeromodeling since 1936???now over 60 continuous years 27. Fax?on?Demand for forms and information 1?800?500?3139 28. Affiliate of National Aeronautical Association 29. Web page on Internet ? Information dissemination 30. Internet E?mail ? to improve ease of communications 31. Federal land use with Department of Interior 32. District meetings for in person contact 33. Free 800 number for member service 34. Administrative staff to assist with explanation of various programs 35. Coordination with Federal Aviation Administration to promote safe regulations for flying models. EVENTS 1. National Championships, world's largest model airplane meets 2. World Championships and other special activities hosted 3. Development of new outdoor promotional modeling events PRODUCTS 1. Model Aviation Magazine ? The Voice of Aeromodeling News 2. Standardized competition rules ? the Rule Book 3. Field Safety and Frequency Posters 4. Modeling publications available at discount through Supply & Service Department 5. National Newsletters for clubs 6. Delta Dart Kit for introduction to aeromodeling 7. Hobby Shop lists for promotions 8. Club Labels for promotions 9. Club Newsletter Labels for promotions 10. Museum newsletter Cloud 9 for patrons 11. Competition license for sanctioned events 12. Advertising about the Association Services in other modeling publications The negative points on the AMA are that too few modelers ever get involved in the organization, just joining so that they can fly at AMA chartered clubs. The AMA has to operate then, on very little input from the membership and only hears the bitching when they do something a member finds does not fit his or her personal agenda. While there are exceptions, these same individuals usually don't usually get involved in running their local clubs or contributing anything of a positive nature at the local level either. While you will hear that the AMA does not communicate with the membership you will find that they do this quite well in their monthly magazine Model Aviation. Unfortunately a vocal few of the members just don't take the time to read it and would rather bitch instead. As with all generalizations there are exceptions to this. This is not to say that the AMA and its officers are without some warts. In the past they could have done a better job in some areas, but these are unpaid volunteers and it is impossible to make everyone happy. The overall operation of the AMA has been steadily improving at a faster rate than one would expect considering the apathy on the part of the membership to provide any constructive comments as to how things could be improved. Most clubs in the country are AMA chartered clubs (this is the choice of the membership at the local level) and as such require AMA membership to fly at their facilities. Non AMA clubs are quite limited in number. Bottom line, if all you want or need is the insurance then flip a coin. Private insurance or the AMA. I would encourage you to consider the later and become a part of the modeling organization with a half-century of service to modeling. RS > Red! You're simply not worth the trouble. Obviously your abilities with > the internet are failing. The original question really doesn't matter but, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> > > >> > RS My abilities on the internet are fine, thanks. I did a search in the Group Archives for posts with "join AMA" in the subject line as well as in the body and from author "Jones" from when you joined this group (as C. O. Jones) in October 2003 through present. Anyone can do it and see that again you are blowing smoke. The only thing that came up was a dialog with several members stating why you didn't need the AMA. Nothing that could be construed as attacking you. Only your constant harangue denigrating the AMA and those that support it. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/browse_frm/thread/5088835e45b43 df/d48293a4f3b2fce4?lnk=st&q=join+ama+group:rec.models.rc.air+insubject:AMA+auth or:Jones&rnum=7&hl=en#d48293a4f3b2fce4 Since you apparantly have lots of time perhaps you could find the message where you were attacked relative to joining the AMA and let us all know where to look (date and thread). Yes, we know, it's not worth your time - same old side step. RS > Red! You're simply not worth the trouble. Obviously your abilities with > the internet are failing. The original question really doesn't matter but, > just for the likes of you, I asked why I should be a member of the AMA? > Don't bother answering, you already did and I thank you for it. Though > saving some $60 a year is nothing to me, I have the pleasure of knowing my > name is in no way associated with yours! > My abilities on the internet are fine, thanks. I did a search in the Group > Archives for posts with "join AMA" in the subject line as well as in the > body I don't have a dog in this fight, Red, but I'd make the search string look like this (no quotes): AMA (join OR joining) ...ensuring that "OR" is upper case, in order to catch more hits on the subject. SignatureSt. John, the searcher You are probably correct. YOU are here and you certainly don't represent the modeling community! SignaturePaul McIntosh RC-Bearings.com "when steel just isn't enough" > You're assuming they're representative of the modeling community! I have > my doubts about that! [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> >> > >>> >> > What is WRONG with you people? Paul, Just because there is no known evidence of his ever really participating in the modeling community other than to throw insults at those who do? His presence here should not be taken a representative of anything other than an internet coward exercising his right to be as obnoxious as possible to as many as possible while hiding his identity - for good reason. RS > You are probably correct. YOU are here and you certainly don't represent > the modeling community! > > > You're assuming they're representative of the modeling community! I have > > my doubts about that! Was only a matter of a very short time when Koranda realized that the AMA is a bunch of hacks -- a joke of an organization. > The Academy of Model Aeronautics' Executive Council (EC), the governing > body [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > continue many of the programs Don initiated during his tenure," Brown > said. I'm surprised it took him as long as it did! Hmmm! Sniff! Sniff! I smell AMA dirty politics in this! > Was only a matter of a very short time when Koranda realized that the AMA > is a bunch of hacks -- a joke of an organization. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> continue many of the programs Don initiated during his tenure," Brown >> said. You get that same message when you mix epoxy also? I thought I was th only one:) Jerr -- tailskid Been modeling since '49 - which makes me an Old Fart Comes with the ring. :-) Red S. "tailskid2" <tailskid2.1xcfob@rcgroups.com> wrote in message > You get that same message when you mix epoxy also? I thought I was the > only one:) > Jerry > tailskid2 |
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