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Red Scholefield - 14 Dec 2005 00:16 GMT
WattFlyer eflight only website eclipses 5,000 member milestone!

This past week WattFlyer.com has eclipsed the 5,000 member mark and now
continues its march upwards to 10,000 rc eflight members.  If you have not
visited or joined WattFlyer.com yet you are missing one of the hottest
growing sites and areas of radio control.  Unlike most other sites WattFlyer
was built for one thing and one thing only.  That thing is radio control
e-flight!

Using a super fast and simple interface WattFlyer lets you get in, find what
you are looking for in eflight and get out.  The helpful and informative
moderators and members all stand ready to lend a hand.   It's friendly,
simple, fun and fast!

http://www.wattflyer.com
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Red's R/C Battery Clinic
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Jim Slaughter - 14 Dec 2005 15:55 GMT
Hi Red. Are you running WattFlyer? I like it a lot!

> WattFlyer eflight only website eclipses 5,000 member milestone!
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> http://www.wattflyer.com
Red Scholefield - 14 Dec 2005 17:24 GMT
NO, just moderating the Battery/Charger forum. It is a sub group of R/C
Universe.  We have had a lot of positive feedback since it started a few
months ago.
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> Hi Red. Are you running WattFlyer? I like it a lot!
Jim Slaughter - 16 Dec 2005 03:46 GMT
I'll have our new 20C li-po's about mid January. How would you like to test
'em?

> NO, just moderating the Battery/Charger forum. It is a sub group of R/C
> Universe.  We have had a lot of positive feedback since it started a few
> months ago.
>> Hi Red. Are you running WattFlyer? I like it a lot!
Red Scholefield - 16 Dec 2005 11:50 GMT
Who is the cell manufacturer? I may have already looked at them. But with
the speed things are developing in lithium techology what was tested last
month is now probably out of date.

You will be claiming 20C capability - have you (or your manufacturer)
developed an life test data where cycle life is plotted as a function of
discharge rate? Also have temperature profiles been run at the high
discharge rate?  There are many claiming 20C capability, and they will do
that, except the temperatures reach cell damaging levels (>140 F) and the
cycle life goes in the toilet if the high rates are repeated.

With that being said, yes I would like to include your product in my text
matrix, comparing against other offerings of lithium polymer. Keep in mind
there is a 3 month lead time for publishing in Model Aviation.

Red S.
Red's R/C Battery Clinic
http://www.rcbatteryclinic.com
Check us out for "revolting" information.
> I'll have our new 20C li-po's about mid January. How would you like to test
> 'em?
Jim Slaughter - 16 Dec 2005 17:02 GMT
Red,
We are not repackaging somebody elses cells. These are made to our specs. I
would hope YOU could do the testing you're asking about. Our current 12C
batteries exceed all the usual specs and we're expecting the same from the
20C's. They're manufactured for us by a very reputable company in China who
have been making cells for Motorola, Nokia, IBM, Dell, etc. for a Long time!

I'm sure anyone can fry a li-po if they try hard enough and ours will be no
exception. We've used a Mountain analyzer and put our prototype 2100 3S 20C
up again Thunder Power's. Ours is discharged at 2208mAh while Thunder
Power's dies at 1850! We have consistently shown our cells are actually
under rated while a lot of them out there seem to be overly optimistic.

Our new cells are 20C continuous burst to 30C. Our next shipment will be in
about mid January. As soon as it arrives, I'll arrange to get some batts to
you. Is there any size(s) you prefer?

Thanks!
Jim Slaughter
President
Hurricane Flight Systems
www.flyhurricane.com
813-996-6997

> Who is the cell manufacturer? I may have already looked at them. But with
> the speed things are developing in lithium techology what was tested last
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> test
>> 'em?
Red Scholefield - 16 Dec 2005 17:59 GMT
I will be testing to these parameters. I like to get the distributors
findings if he has them just to compare.

BTW, your web site http://www.flyhurricane.com/ looks good, real easy to
navigate and excellent product data presesntation.

Others should note: West Mountain Radio CBA-II is an excellent tool for the
electric flyer enthusiast, however it is limited to 100 watts continious
discharge. This means the most you can draw from a 2S 2000 mAh pack is about
12.5 amps which is 6.25C.  Even with a single cell being tested you can go
to 12.5C.  We are going to have to come up with a way to do higher discharge
rates to keep up with the advances in lithium polymer technolgy.  Maybe West
Mountain will come out with a heavy duty unit.  Either that or I'm going to
have to tear into my old Victor Engineering Super Hi-Q to see if the
information on hopping it up will work.
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Red S.
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http://www.rcbatteryclinic.com
Check us out for "revolting" information.

> Red,
> We are not repackaging somebody elses cells. These are made to our specs. I
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> www.flyhurricane.com
> 813-996-6997
aeropal - 28 Dec 2005 23:14 GMT
"Unlike most other sites WattFlyer
was built for one thing and one thing only.  That thing is radio
control
e-flight!"

So now the site administrator Marc Vigod is seeking guidance on
allowing a non-electric slope flying forum AND advertising with "opt-in
only" viewing . . pretty hard to believe that the advertisers won't
demand that the ad viewing become the default setting.
 
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