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Are Gun Ranges Safe?

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zara - 21 Dec 2005 02:28 GMT
Extremely -
much more so than Model Airplane fields.
Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
little airplanes.
Dave Green - 21 Dec 2005 03:05 GMT
> Extremely -
> much more so than Model Airplane fields.
> Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
> little airplanes.

Haha, the club I used to belong to, the flying field was ON the gun
range. I don't recall any deaths or maimng tho, so yes, you're right,
gun ranges are safer.

d
Storm's Hamburgers - 21 Dec 2005 03:23 GMT
I'll go along with that.
mk
Oh dern, i nibbled.
:)

> Extremely -
> much more so than Model Airplane fields.
> Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
> little airplanes.
Ed Paasch - 21 Dec 2005 04:17 GMT
One of the clubs I belong to must be extra safe.  Our flying field is
bordered on the north by a public skeet shooting range and to the south by
the police shooting range.  Any errant model planes can quickly be blown to
pieces before they're allowed to crash into anybody and cause injury.

By coincidence, we've never gotten a noise complaint that our planes are too
loud there.

> Extremely -
> much more so than Model Airplane fields.
> Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
> little airplanes.
Eye Indo - 21 Dec 2005 05:49 GMT
Is the flying field in the LA basin not next to a gun range ??
I think it is called "something downs" or whatever.
Been a very long time since I was there.

> One of the clubs I belong to must be extra safe.  Our flying field is
> bordered on the north by a public skeet shooting range and to the south by
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> By coincidence, we've never gotten a noise complaint that our planes are
> too loud there.
Fubar of The HillPeople - 22 Dec 2005 02:34 GMT
Whittier Narrows is close to a trap shooting range. No ranges at The Basin.

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> Is the flying field in the LA basin not next to a gun range ??
> I think it is called "something downs" or whatever.
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>> By coincidence, we've never gotten a noise complaint that our planes are
>> too loud there.
Eye Indo - 22 Dec 2005 03:39 GMT
Yep that was the one.
Thanks Fubar for refeshing my memory.

> Whittier Narrows is close to a trap shooting range. No ranges at The
> Basin.
Red Scholefield - 21 Dec 2005 11:35 GMT
'Cowboy' gun sport ends in tragedy
Ocala Star-Banner
December 18. 2005 6:01AM
OCALA NATIONAL FOREST - A 39-year-old man apparently accidentally shot
himself to death at a gun range Saturday while practicing a popular sport
called cowboy action shooting.

RS

> Extremely -
> much more so than Model Airplane fields.
> Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
> little airplanes.
zara - 21 Dec 2005 13:10 GMT
> 'Cowboy' gun sport ends in tragedy
> Ocala Star-Banner
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>
> RS

I just knew you would be here waving a flag, chicken f.cker.  I could give
you five model airplane deaths and a few hundred injuries for last year
alone.  When I say "chicken f.cker", I mean both kinds.  You sound about
75 - am I close?
CRaSH - 21 Dec 2005 13:27 GMT
> absolutely nothing worth reading, as usual

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Stefan Pettersen - 27 Dec 2005 13:12 GMT
I'm deeply impressed with the articulate reply Zara.
You sound about 16 - am I close?

> > 'Cowboy' gun sport ends in tragedy
> > Ocala Star-Banner
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> alone.  When I say "chicken f.cker", I mean both kinds.  You sound about
> 75 - am I close?
Ed Cregger - 21 Dec 2005 13:35 GMT
> 'Cowboy' gun sport ends in tragedy
> Ocala Star-Banner
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> RS

Gun ranges are safe refuge compared to skiing slopes. At least practicing
with a gun provides a benefit that is used in the rest of your life. Skiing?
Idiocy, unless you live in the far northern latitudes.

With that said, no one gets out of life alive. Do what pleases you, as long
as it harms no one else.

Happy Holidays, everyone.

Ed Cregger
J_R - 21 Dec 2005 15:51 GMT
What is it about these trolls that you all feel compelled to line up
behind the boat and snap up the bait? In looking at this group, time
after time, you all allow a few trolls to destroy what is otherwise a
good group.... a place were good information on modeling can be found.
Why, why, why, can't you ignore them?
zara - 21 Dec 2005 15:56 GMT
> What is it about these trolls that you all feel compelled to line up
> behind the boat and snap up the bait? In looking at this group, time
> after time, you all allow a few trolls to destroy what is otherwise a
> good group.... a place were good information on modeling can be found.
> Why, why, why, can't you ignore them?

Without trolls, this would be a very dull place.  Why, why, why do you keep
denying.
Ed Cregger - 21 Dec 2005 17:58 GMT
> What is it about these trolls that you all feel compelled
> to line up
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> can be found.
> Why, why, why, can't you ignore them?

We are "socializing" by aligning our opinions of the topic.
It is a loose form of bonding on like issues.

Loosen up a bit. Take it easy. Usenet, or any other public
forum, will never be tantamount to a super professional
exchange of raw data. It just ain't gonna happen.

Happy Holidays

Ed Cregger
zara - 21 Dec 2005 19:30 GMT
>> What is it about these trolls that you all feel compelled to line up
>> behind the boat and snap up the bait? In looking at this group, time
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>
> Ed Cregger

I must say, that after getting to know you better, you're not bad at all.
CJ - 22 Dec 2005 00:43 GMT
I agree Ed....I'm down here in Arlington...he he he....you are a pretty good
guy...

CJ

>>> What is it about these trolls that you all feel compelled to line up
>>> behind the boat and snap up the bait? In looking at this group, time
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> I must say, that after getting to know you better, you're not bad at all.
not i - 21 Dec 2005 16:07 GMT
>Extremely -
>much more so than Model Airplane fields.
>Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
>little airplanes.

Much safer than living in Toronto ("")
johnyh - 21 Dec 2005 18:11 GMT
> Extremely -
> much more so than Model Airplane fields.
> Very few shooters get killed and maimed.  The opposite is true with the
> little airplanes.

Yes
It's the idiots on them that are not safe.
Skyhawk - 21 Dec 2005 18:19 GMT
Our free flight fields are as safe as your free fight bullet ranges, but
I'll bet if you had radio controlled bullets things would be different!
Skyhawk - 22 Dec 2005 02:04 GMT
When you have radio controlled bullets, thing will be very different!
nigeltsmith@ntsmith.plus.com - 27 Jun 2006 10:19 GMT
I guess not too safe if they don't like yer. lol
CRaSH - 27 Jun 2006 12:35 GMT
> I guess not too safe if they don't like yer. lol

Also not advisable to fly at a skeet range!!
zara - 28 Jun 2006 22:01 GMT
>I guess not too safe if they don't like yer. lol

They are a lot "safer" than Model Aviation Fields.  They discourage
"a.sholes" from shooting.  If you want to see a bunch of clowns in action -
go over to the Tri County Eagles field, in Mahopac, NY.  Be sure to wear
your Hardhat.
Peter Baylinson - 28 Jun 2006 22:42 GMT
Outdoor ranges are safe as far as getting shot goes,but indoor ranges have a
danger of getting hit with a ricashade round. Also a danger at an indoor
range is the noise . Even with ear protection you can have hearing damage.
If you shoot indoor, hook your shooting glasses over the earmuffs, not
underneath them. Don't shoot magnums indoors.
>I guess not too safe if they don't like yer. lol
CRaSH - 28 Jun 2006 23:10 GMT
> Outdoor ranges are safe as far as getting shot goes,but indoor ranges
> have a danger of getting hit with a ricashade round. Also a danger at
> an indoor range is the noise . Even with ear protection you can have
> hearing damage. If you shoot indoor, hook your shooting glasses over
> the earmuffs, not underneath them. Don't shoot magnums indoors.

I've never worried about a ricochet at a properly designed indoor range.  We
even had one guy that just got his 1911 45 back from a "well known"
gunsmith, that went full auto when he first fired it in a IPSC match -
needless to say, a few rounds went up to the ceiling (concrete).   Yeah, I
know, shoulda tried it before, but he just got it back that afternoon.
However, even with "good" ventilation systems, the fumes can get kinda thick
if many are firing (the one I went to had four seperate ranges)!!!
desmobob - 29 Jun 2006 02:17 GMT
>> Outdoor ranges are safe as far as getting shot goes,but indoor ranges
>> have a danger of getting hit with a ricashade round. Also a danger at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> However, even with "good" ventilation systems, the fumes can get kinda
> thick if many are firing (the one I went to had four seperate ranges)!!!

I believe the biggest danger by far in indoor ranges are the lead fumes.  I
gave up shooting in an indoor four-position smallbore rifle league because
none of the ranges had proper ventilation.  One of the guys on my team was
tested for lead levels and he was way above the healthy limit.

I'm dumb enough without plugging up my synapses with lead.  :-)

Good shooting,
desmobob
Peter Baylinson - 29 Jun 2006 12:28 GMT
CRaSH...You're right about the fumes..also there  is the lead danger. The
way to avoid the full auto possibility is to load only one round in the
magazine and one in the chamber, try the gun and if O.K. add a couple more
in the mag. and try again. This should be done any time work has been done
on the trigger pull etc.

>> Outdoor ranges are safe as far as getting shot goes,but indoor ranges
>> have a danger of getting hit with a ricashade round. Also a danger at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> However, even with "good" ventilation systems, the fumes can get kinda
> thick if many are firing (the one I went to had four seperate ranges)!!!
quietguy - 29 Jun 2006 01:08 GMT
...and it depends which end of the guns you are at - pointy end is not
so good, blunt end is (usually) OK

David

> I guess not too safe if they don't like yer. lol
 
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