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Chad - 27 Dec 2005 05:30 GMT
http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/towa21.html
This RTF kit includes 4 channel radio and a .46 engine.
I have never owned or flown a gas powered rc airplane. I have a 36''
wingspan electric biplane that I've got pretty good at flying and am
ready to try a gas powered.
Rather than buying a Futaba or JR 4 or 6 channel radio, then purchasing
engines and airplane kits separately. I was looking for some advice
from some experienced rc airplane hobbyist'.
I can purchase this RTF
http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/towa21.html for $242.97 (with a
$25.00 off promo code)
Do you think this is a good buy for a first time trainer plane? The
other thing is that I really enjoy the hobby and see my self enjoying
it for years to come. Do you think I would be better off by going ahead
and purchasing a hi-quality FM TX radio and starting out with a .46
engine and purchasing an airplane kit. Or, would it be better to
purchase the RTF mentioned above for only $249.97 and learn more about
engines, servos and radios before purchasing a good radio, etc..?
Thanks for your time and responses.
Ed Paasch - 27 Dec 2005 05:47 GMT
The Tower Trainer .40 is a great airframe and is highly rated by folks who
have bought and flown them.  The Tower .46 engine that is bundled with it is
a high quality engine and also highly rated by most users.  The radio that
Tower includes is actually a rebadged Futaba 4YF transmitter, and is very
high quality as well.

The Tower Trainer .40 RTF package is one of the best values in RC flying.
I'd recommend you buy it and spend 2006 learning to fly it with a qualified
instructor at a local RC club.  Once you're comfortable flying solo, you can
start shopping for a nice computer radio and a low wing ARF for your second
plane.  You'll know a lot more after flying for a few months and you'll be
able to make a more informed decision.

> http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/towa21.html
> This RTF kit includes 4 channel radio and a .46 engine.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> engines, servos and radios before purchasing a good radio, etc..?
> Thanks for your time and responses.
St. John Smythe - 27 Dec 2005 11:50 GMT
> This RTF kit includes 4 channel radio and a .46 engine.
> I have never owned or flown a gas powered rc airplane. I have a 36''
> wingspan electric biplane that I've got pretty good at flying and am
> ready to try a gas powered.

If you're comfortable flying an electric, there's no need to have
something that's labeled "trainer" as your first gas plane unless you
just want to.

A newbie at our club, after spending many winter hours on a simulator,
got an Ultra Stick 40 as his first plane, and soloed before finishing
his first quart of fuel.

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Eye Indo - 27 Dec 2005 19:34 GMT
I second, what SJS stated.
No reason to fly a "true trainer".
Maybe an "advanced trainer" ?

Sizewise, you could go anywhere up to maybe a decent 60 sized plane.
Just remember that "the bigger the plane is, the easier it is to fly it".
And if you are like some of us older geeks, you can see it better .....

What kind of radio do you have now ?
You may not need another one yet, if it is a decent four channel unit.
Otherwise, I'd say, go for at least a good six channel unit.
If you do not like it, you can sell a six channel unit faster than an four
channel one.

As always, your budget limits you to what you can work with.
Just my personal advice -- do not spend money on simulators, just to learn.
There are plenty freebees around.
Do not spend money on gadgets that come with a plane such as those that come
with the Nexstar.  They really should sell that plane as a basic version,
because it is a nice looking plane.
Look for a plane that does NOT have a flat bottom wing, or has so darn much
dihedral in the wing set-up.
Hi wing or Lo wing ? Either one can be a lot of fun to fly.  Nose wheel or
tail wheel ?  Whatever fancies you.  You can fly already, so go for your
choice of looks.
So look around and then ask for opinion here about what people like or
dislike about them.

HTH

> If you're comfortable flying an electric, there's no need to have
> something that's labeled "trainer" as your first gas plane unless you
> just want to.
.
Robert  Scott - 27 Dec 2005 12:07 GMT
> Do you think this is a good buy for a first time trainer plane?

Yes.  That's a very nice airplane, engine and radio...  I bought the same
set-up about six years ago.  :-)  The Tower Trainer is an airplane I loved
to fly, even when I started flying more advanced models.  I'd always take it
up at the beginning of a flying day to warm up, or I'd fly it when I just
wanted to relax and float around the sky.

Good luck,
desmobob
Ted Campanelli - 27 Dec 2005 13:31 GMT
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

Yes, it is a nice setup.  Tower radios are rebadged Futaba radios and
the airframe is a good one.

One caveat though, the engine.  The tower engines (especially the TH46 )
is a hit or miss proposition.  There are numerous reports of the engine
NOT SHUTTING OFF.  Do a search on RC Universe
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/default.asp?fh=1&forumid=226  for Tower
engines and form your own opinion BEFORE buying the setup.

I have had 2 Tower 46 engines.  They both had awsome power and excellent
transition (going from idle to full throttle ), however, neither one
would shut off in less than 30 seconds.  And before anyone chimes in, I
went through the engine and sealed all the usual airleak spots
(backplate, O-Ring under the carb, carb hold down bolt,remote needle
valve gaskets, making sure the throttle barrel was fully closed ).  I
finally gave my engines away because I felt the not shutting down was a
major safety hazard.

On the other hand, a couple of people at my field have the TH46 and have
not had the shutting down problems that I have had.

I suggest again, that you check the threads on RC Universe on this
engine and form your own opinion.

FWIW - 3 of the most user friendly, trouble/problem free engines I can
recommend (in no particular order ) are:  OS 46AX, Thunder Tiger Pro 46
(front needle valve ) and the Evolution 46.

Hope this is of some help.

> http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/towa21.html
> This RTF kit includes 4 channel radio and a .46 engine.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> engines, servos and radios before purchasing a good radio, etc..?
> Thanks for your time and responses.
 
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