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jma - 28 Jan 2006 01:51 GMT
I'm running a JETI ESC with a Futaba receiver and a 3 cell LiPo battery
on a brushless motor. I can move the throttle forward to about 80% and
the engine suddenly quits. Moving the throttle back to zero and running
it up it works again up to 80% and quits again. I can't find any
reference to this kind of failure anywhere. I just replaced the
battery. Any ideas?
Thanks!
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 28 Jan 2006 02:19 GMT
>I'm running a JETI ESC with a Futaba receiver and a 3 cell LiPo battery
>on a brushless motor. I can move the throttle forward to about 80% and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>battery. Any ideas?
>Thanks!

ATV on the Tx not set to 100% on the forward end??
Mark Miller - 28 Jan 2006 02:27 GMT
"jma" <anderton@khpatent.com> wrote in news:1138413095.344924.160750
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I'm running a JETI ESC with a Futaba receiver and a 3 cell LiPo battery
> on a brushless motor. I can move the throttle forward to about 80% and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> battery. Any ideas?
> Thanks!

Two possibilities - first, you're hitting the ESC's current limit, if it
has one, and it's cutting power to protect itself.  Second - and probably
more likely - as you move the throttle forward, the current increases and
the voltage drops, so you may be hitting the low-voltage cutoff.  I had one
ESC doing that when I was using a 2 cell pack and the ESC was expecting a 3
cell pack, so it didn't take much of a voltage drop to go below the 3 cell
LVC.  

What size pack, what motor, what ESC?

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Ted Campanelli - 28 Jan 2006 02:29 GMT
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:
> I'm running a JETI ESC with a Futaba receiver and a 3 cell LiPo battery
> on a brushless motor. I can move the throttle forward to about 80% and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> battery. Any ideas?
> Thanks!

If the ATV is set to 100%, it sounds like the motor is pulling more amps
than the controller can handle.

If this is what is happening, the ESC is shutting down to protect itself
from burnout.

Try a higher capacity ESC and see whether your problem continues.  I
think your problem will disappear with a higher rated ESC.
The Natural Philosopher - 28 Jan 2006 09:16 GMT
> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If the ATV is set to 100%, it sounds like the motor is pulling more amps
> than the controller can handle.

...Than the PACK can handle.
Its hitting LVC.

Probably a Kokam pack. Real capability=66% of claimed ability.
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego - 30 Jan 2006 02:29 GMT
>> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
>> so great) words of knowledge:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Probably a Kokam pack. Real capability=66% of claimed ability.

Which would pull more amps?  Higher RPM, less pitch or lower RPM, more
pitch on the prop?
jma - 31 Jan 2006 16:19 GMT
I am running a
JEIT PHASOR 15/3 BRUSHLESS MOTOR
and a
JETI ADVANCE PLUS 30 AMP CONTROLLER
3 cell LiPo, I think it is a Kokam, brand new battery.
The motor and controller are sold as a set from hobby-lobby so I would
assume it's the right size contoller for the application. They call for
a 7" prop and I have to use 6.5 " in this application. I don't see how
prop size/RPM would make it cut out suddenly but it's the only thing
not in spec.

John
Boofus - 31 Jan 2006 18:39 GMT
> I am running a
> JEIT PHASOR 15/3 BRUSHLESS MOTOR
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> John
 
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