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"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --
massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
it." Gene Spafford (1992)
| FFS, can people please propogate the fact that many years ago at least
| one of the Usenet pioneers felt that it was now okay to post to a
| newsgroup so long as the subject header was marked as such.
So? One person thought it was OK several years ago, and since he was
there years before that, that makes it OK? Ultimately, Usenet today
is what we make of it today, not what one of the `pioneers' thinks it
should be.
I'll bet we could find some pioneers who don't think it's OK to post
test messages to non-test groups too.
I'd also bet that overall, the `pioneers' are both amazed and aghast
at what Usenet has become.
| The reason for this change was that any post sent to alt.test was no
| guarantee that a post would then get to another newsgroup.
That is true. But even so, it's still annoying at best when people
put test messages into newsgroups that are actually being used.
If your post isn't at least somewhat on-topic, don't make it -- it's
really just that simple. If you want to make a test post to
rec.models.rc.air, cleverly disguise it as an on-topic post, by making
it a real on-topic post! How hard could that be?
Lest I be a hypocrite, I got bored one day (it was raining, or I was
working, or I had to watch the kids or something -- ultimately, I
couldn't fly) and I had just answered another email about where the
local slopes were, so I went and found the Google maps information for
all the places I go fly in Austin, TX --
http://mclaren.frenzy.com/~dougmc/RC/austin-slopes.html
nothing really special, but one thing that amused me is that if you
look at the HCAM field and zoom way in, there's a few cars visible,
and there's a speck in the pits that I suspect is somebody's plane.
How often can you claim that your model was visible from orbit? :)
(of course, this is assuming that this particular image came from a
satellite, and not from a plane flying over. It's also a bit tricky
to determine just who's plane it is, since it is just a speck.)
I'll bet if we went poking around in some of the big sailplane club
fields (with their big models), we could find some clearly visible
models in google maps. Or maybe an IMAA field ...
Full scale planes are quite obvious, of course -- and it's great fun
to go looking at places like Area-51 and look at the planes that
google actually lets you look at. There's even places where you can
see planes in flight, which is kind of neat.

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Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzy.com
"It is assumed in some quarters that if you missed the early days of
Usenet and didn't use Lynx from a Unix command line, you missed the
Magic of Internet Culture." -The Cluetrain Manifesto
Storm's Hamburgers - 22 Mar 2006 22:10 GMT
, it's still annoying at best when people
> put test messages into newsgroups that are actually being used.
>
> If your post isn't at least somewhat on-topic, don't make it -- it's
> really just that simple.
Not IHMO, this is a test thread.......It went ok, things learned.
mk
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 22 Mar 2006 22:38 GMT
>"It is assumed in some quarters that if you missed the early days of
> Usenet and didn't use Lynx from a Unix command line, you missed the
> Magic of Internet Culture." -The Cluetrain Manifesto
That's two in a row. I added your quotation to the Big-8 history page:
<http://www.big-8.org>.
Marty

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>"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --
>massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
>source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
>it." Gene Spafford (1992)
FWIW, I've added this quotation to the Usenet page on <http://www.big-8.org>.
Marty

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wanjung@toast.net - 29 Mar 2006 02:41 GMT
You'll notice that I have not posted for awhile, But a long lost friend
found me from this thread. For that I am grateful.
Wan