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Plans for OT veco dakota FF

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aeromodler@aol.com - 28 Apr 2006 17:13 GMT
Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.
Frank Schwartz - 28 Apr 2006 17:27 GMT
>Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
>produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
>built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
>lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
>would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
>channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.

I do not know where plans are available, but I am sure someone
knows where they can be obtained...however, I also heard that
there is source that makes a replica kit of the Dakota...maybe they
are reading your inquiry and can provide that information..
Frank
David Poles - 28 Apr 2006 18:10 GMT
Google: it's a wonderful thing
http://www.freeflightmodels.com/pages/aerodyneproducts/nostalgia_power.htm
Look under Dakota, 24"

or a  kit:
http://www.bmjrmodels.com/catalog.cfm?ID=Nostalgia

David

> Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
> produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
> built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
> lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
> would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
> channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.
Sport Pilot - 09 May 2006 16:50 GMT
I noticed the Goldberg Blazer 1/2 A listed.  Built one when I was a kid
but never flew it.  Do the plans show the rib patterns?  Does anyone
reproduce the kit?
Tim Wescott - 28 Apr 2006 22:40 GMT
> Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
> produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
> built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
> lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
> would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
> channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.

With a 24 inch wingspan and a speed 400 it should make a screamingly
fast park flyer.

I'm building a 24-inch wingspan Super Solution that I'm planning on
powering with a little GWS IPS-size motor.

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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

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Bill@WRLee.com - 04 May 2006 02:01 GMT
Go to

http://www.eskimo.com/~smallnet/

and from there click on the "Sources" link. Scan down to the "Plans"
section and click on the "Plans, Dakota" link. That's a very old link,
but it does point at the originator of the design, Joe Wagner.

Also, if you scan to the "Kits" section, you will find a couple of
links to Dakota kits. Again, links that will take you back to Joe
Wagner, but are much more recent.

Regards,

Bill Lee
Collector's Daughter - 09 May 2006 16:22 GMT
> Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
> produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
> built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
> lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
> would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
> channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.

Given some time, I can see if there's one in Dad's collection that he
has me selling. He's got just about everything under the sun, it seems.
If you'd like me to look, I will. You can even drop me an e-mail (I'm
sure you know the "no spam" drill).

Collector's Daughter
challenger_i - 27 Aug 2006 04:30 GMT
Joe Wagner sells plans for the Dakota, and the Sioux. Also, he has plan
supplements for electric conversion. His contact information is liste
on the Smallnet website. He is very easy to talk with

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challenger_
ChuckA - 28 Aug 2006 06:47 GMT
aeromodler@aol.com Wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
> produced by Veco products in the late 60's. It was called a Dakota. I
> built one back then and it was a great FF model. It was so good that I
> lost it to a thermal which it wasn't supposed to do. I thought that I
> would build another using a speed 400 with gear reduction and a 4
> channel radio. At 24 inch wing span it would be a nice park flyer.

The Dakota was not a new kit when I built one in 1954.  I powered i
with a McCoy 049 diesel because I did not have a place to store
battery and glow fuel.  It was much easier to hide a half pint o
diesel fuel than a pint of glow fuel and starting battery.  Flew al
summer on that half pint.  I was an aviation cadet stationed at Hond
Texas at the time

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Chuck
Storm's Hamilton - 28 Aug 2006 17:20 GMT
> aeromodler@aol.com Wrote:
>> Does anyone have an idea where I can find the plans for a FF that was
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> summer on that half pint.  I was an aviation cadet stationed at Hondo
> Texas at the time.

Where did you hide the plane?
mk
High Plains Thumper - 01 Sep 2006 11:17 GMT
"Storm's Hamilton" wrote:
> "ChuckA" wrote...
>> aeromodler@aol.com Wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Where did you hide the plane?

Dakota would be easy to hide with 24" wingspan in a foot locker
if one made wings detachable.  I did that with Top Flite R/C
27" Schoolboy and after retiring a TF R/C 21" Roaring 20.  Both
were powered by .020 PeeWee and Ace R/C Pulse Commander Rudder
Only.  Back then in '72 - '73 (6 months), I was a student at the
Navy School of Music near Virginia Beach, Virginia.  It helped
me to keep my sanity.  (Tough job, but someone has to do it.)

It would not surprise me that as a pilot trainee, probably had a
little more leeway with the plane on display in his room.
The Natural Philosopher - 01 Sep 2006 11:52 GMT
> "Storm's Hamilton" wrote:
>> "ChuckA" wrote...
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> It would not surprise me that as a pilot trainee, probably had a
> little more leeway with the plane on display in his room.

24" span doesn't need a speed 400. A 20watt geared IPS unit will fly it.

Unless you want a 50mph plus model,..in which case a direct drive speed
400 is ideal :-)
High Plains Thumper - 02 Sep 2006 12:50 GMT
>> Dakota would be easy to hide with 24" wingspan in a foot locker
>> if one made wings detachable.  I did that with Top Flite R/C
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Unless you want a 50mph plus model,..in which case a direct drive speed
> 400 is ideal :-)

I'm a newbee to electrics.  Then a 280 motor would be the ticket?

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HPT

Bill Adair - 11 Sep 2006 07:58 GMT
My Dumas Dakota kit does not have full size plans, and I don't think th
Veco kit had them either.

Best check to see that your getting the full size plans, and not th
Veco style assembly drawings.

Bill Adai

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Bill Adai
Ed Toner - 19 Sep 2006 17:43 GMT
I'm building the BMJR DAKOTA right now. Great kit, $40 and well wort
it. Laser parts go together like a fine picture puzzle.

I built the VECO almost 50 years ago when I was 25 or so. I put
Holland WASP in it, and flew it from Hicksville Field on Long Island
One day I overfilled the tank and away she went, OOS. I had my addres
and phone number on it. I lived in Franklin Square at the time. (I ha
just finished a cruise on the USS WASP flying Banshee's the yea
before.)

The next day I got a phone call from a man in Garden City. He found i
and I
went to his house and picked it up. He told me it landed at the Garde
City Long Island Railroad station. It caused quite a stir, as mos
people thought it was an aircraft landing with a dead engine.

Hicksville Field back then was a potato field open to modellers durin
the winter. Today it is Levittown.

Anyway, I bought one of the OK .049 Cubs with a plastic tank for $3
from the OK owner who had a large supply of them in an old warehouse
Brand new.

They had a neddle valve problem. There was no taper on them, so
ground one down. I hope it runs. This was a fix I heard about.

Mine is for FF. I have no idea where I'll fly it, but I'm having a bal
building it

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Ed Tone
Storm's Hamilton - 19 Sep 2006 18:52 GMT
> I'm building the BMJR DAKOTA right now. Great kit, $40 and well worth
> it. Laser parts go together like a fine picture puzzle.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Mine is for FF. I have no idea where I'll fly it, but I'm having a ball
> building it.

Better put your name as addy in this one too.
:)
mk

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