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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Air Models / July 2006good candidates for first giant model airplane
I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a great flying giant easily built model airplane capable of sportsman class aerobatics. Any suggestions? Anything from scratch building from plans to kit planes to ARF is ok by me. It would be good though, if the wing can be removed from the fuselage for transportation and storage, and even better if the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. Sig Spacewalker is a good start. Red S. > I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first > giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > if the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a > little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. > I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first > giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a > little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. Try the senior telemaster http://www.hobby-lobby.com/srtele.htm for a start..there are quite a few 'large vintage/trainer' type machines out there. But the big tele is a firm favorite..slow to land, but with enough watts or horsepower up front, will do the usual things you would expect of a high wing with some dihedral sort of layout. Even the 'you only need a .40' is blatant overpowering when compared to some electric models, which have flown on not much more than 300W (about half a bhp..more like a 30 glo).They do have the advantages of being able to gear for a bigger prop though. If you have the time to build this, at $110 for the kit, its a no brainer to at least explore this size of model. If I were doing it glo/gas Id probably think in terms of a 60 or 90 4-stroke. Might need some beefing up for a 90 though. Why not contact Bruce Tharpe, explain your problem with shipping cost, and see if he will sell you the plans via email? It is worth a try. http://www.btemodels.com/ >I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first >giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a >little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. I had a lot of fun with a Road Runner until I broke it. :o( Bruce Tharpe (sp?) has a nice looking Flying King. Not aerobatic though. More of a utility plane. Great Planes used to make a 1.20 Super Sportster. That may be back in production as an ARF. Low-wing, tail dragger, modest aerobatic capabilities. Marty My vote goes for the Bruce Tharpe "Fkying King". This is a beautifully engineered kit and was an absolute pleasure to build. I used a Saito 80 in mine and it is capable of loops rolls and even inverted flight...much t the surprise of everyone who has flown it. I've ben building all mylife and this kit is one of the best engineered and best building one I ever built. Check his web page and what his builders have to say. I've built and flown the SR Telemaster also..even the 12 foot one..they fly fine, but my vote still goes tothe "Flying King" Frank Schwartz >I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first >giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a >little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. Morris Hobbies, Jerry's Big Boy I was thinking of a plane capable of most aerobatic, if not all, manouvers apart from the 3D thing.One plane I´ve been looking at is the SIG Four-Star 120. But, I´m afraid the wing is about 250 cm and that it isn´t dividable for transport...I may be wrong though. The Four-Star also comes in a 60-size, but I´d like something bigger. I´ve seen some Precedent Stampe quarterscale kits out there on sale too, but browsing the web there seem to be quite a few builders who have abandend building it because of a very low quality kit, apparantely the dies used for cutting the parts in the kit has been anything but good. But there must be more out there, nice plans-built, kits or ARF giant model airplanes with aerobatic ability. I don´t want anything that flies like a rocket, it has to be able to slow down nicely for the landing circuit. My flying club field has high trees on final so I need to be able to slow the plane down safely and come in with a quite high sink rate before the flare. And as I said, it doesn´t have to be scale at all, I also really like model airplanes that look like model airplanes. :-) "Ken" <nyyssitt@koti.luukku.com> kirjoitti viestissä:WHGwg.76$yA4.69@read3.inet.fi... > I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first > giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > if the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a > little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. I forgot to tell you, that I live in Finland. I had a look at the Flying Kings, love the looks and especially the super-size one with its cleverly dividable wing and big flaps! If it could be had with a tri-gear the biggy would be a wet dream! Still maybe the design is not a good aerobatic trainer. Unfortunately also it would be too big and expensive to import it to Finland. I´ve ordered some trainers from Tower Hobbies once, the size of models that take .25 size 2-stroke glow engines, and even for those small kits with the wings shipped as two halves in the box the shipping was more than the kits themselves. The other wonderful Jerry's Big Boy is an ARF of a kind that is not imported over here, so sadly that too is out of question. Bummer. Any more good candidates, maybe something that one of the bigger kit makers carries, like SIG, Great Planes or the like? Or something nice that is plans-built? The telemaster looks like a great flyer, but is not aerobatic enough I believe, it looks like a classic trainer and I already have a couple of those. Ken, I have an Ultra Sport 1000 kit sitting on my shelf for a rainy day. Is it raining there? http://www.greatplanes.com/discontinued/gpma0425.html MK >Ken, I have an Ultra Sport 1000 kit sitting on my shelf for a rainy day. Is >it raining there? >http://www.greatplanes.com/discontinued/gpma0425.html I have a US 1000, too. I agree that it is probably a good plane for his purposes--IF he uses flaps or flaperons to slow it down as it comes in over the trees at the end of his field. It's easy to float the Ultra Sport waaaaaaaay past the end of the runway. It's not as draggy as other planes that have been recommended in this thread. Photos of my Road Runner (crashed, despite what the page says), Wagstaff, and UltraSport: http://moleski.net/rc/current.htm Marty It´s a queen! Still, sofar it would seem that the only giant scale available here and pretty suitable for my wallet is the Fourstar. Its incredible, but the price on most kits and ARF:s here are usually at least 50% higher than you have in the U.S. The 60 version cost over here more than the 120 version in the U.S. Many models cost at least double that you pay. Hard to believe it´s just transportation cost explaining the differences and our taxes and the custom fees aren´t THAT high either. =) I´m wandering a bit out of topic here, but just must tell you of my latest visit to a model shop. It´s one with a pretty good collection of airplanes, well, medium size of them anyway. I was going to get some 8x40 mm trailing edge balsa lists, Graupner basic stuff. One single list of 1 meter length was about 5.50 euros, that´s like 7 dollars! Ok, same thing, same make, same everything, will cost under half of that if I drive one hour in each direction. I´m resurrecting one of my first models, a small bipe, and it has come to cost me more than the complete kit including everything way back then.Still, I´m doing it because it has the kind of value to me that money cannot buy. Kits over here seem to be equally priced almost regardless of which shop you´re dealing with. And we all know that the price of the kit is the smallest price of building an airplane model. Still, you have to go with what you can afford and do it bit by bit...and it´s great fun doing it that way! :-) It´s also a good thing that we do have some model shops and don´t have to order everything from abroad. (...and I´m not trying to start an endless thread on the subject of buying locally or abroad here, both possibilities are in my opinion needed) "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> kirjoitti viestissä:7onac2tr49rne1s8jin5nhah5am4dt3nbl@4ax.com... >>Ken, I have an Ultra Sport 1000 kit sitting on my shelf for a rainy day. >>Is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Marty Sig Rascal 110! Incredible flying airplane!! > I´ve been doing some searching on the web for good candidates for a first > giant model airplane. It doesn´t have to be a giant scale model, just a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > if the wing could be divided in two. If the wing is maximum 2 meters or a > little more, it doesn´t have to be dividable in two either. Sig also makes a 4 Star 120..big and a good flyer. Frank |
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