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An Ugly (but working) Solution

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Tim Wescott - 27 Aug 2006 00:04 GMT
After taking some time off to experience intense back pain I took the
Laird Solution out flying today.  I blocked off the notch where the
canopy isn't, and added about 25% more area to the vertical stabilizer
(this is on a plane that _was_ a nice pretty black & yellow of the
original -- now it's black, yellow and foamy white).

It flys!  I was right that it didn't have enough vertical stabilizer --
now it's a bit of a handful, but it does pretty much what it's supposed
to instead of flopping around the sky for a bit before coming to earth
somewhere I didn't want it to be.

Whew!

Now, do I try to make what I have look good, or do I just build another
one...

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Storm's Hamilton - 27 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT
I say slap some paint on it.  Don't be like Mike
mk

> After taking some time off to experience intense back pain I took the
> Laird Solution out flying today.  I blocked off the notch where the canopy
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> Now, do I try to make what I have look good, or do I just build another
> one...
Tim Wescott - 27 Aug 2006 18:16 GMT
(Top posting fixed)

>>After taking some time off to experience intense back pain I took the
>>Laird Solution out flying today.  I blocked off the notch where the canopy
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> I say slap some paint on it.  Don't be like Mike
> mk

There's more wrong with it than just the wrong-colored stab, though -- I
changed engine mounts in the middle of the project, and the fuselage
doublers are pretty awkward, and the foam inter plane struts were way
too wimpy and have balsa scabbed on them.  Basically it's a pretty old
plane, for all that it only has about 30 minutes of flight time on it.

I'm thinking I should draw up plans for what it _should_ be, then
rebuild it to that spec.  It'll be prettier, stronger, lighter and
replica table.

But in the mean time I think I'm going to cut out a stab & rudder that
are expanded by 10% all the way around, _then_ slap some paint on.  And
I'm going to make a clear canopy, probably after making a profile pilot
figure.  Then I'll fly that sucker!

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CRaSH - 27 Aug 2006 21:04 GMT
> I'm thinking I should draw up plans for what it _should_ be, then
> rebuild it to that spec.  It'll be prettier, stronger, lighter and
> replica table.

Seems like you've answered your own question, and are now seeking
ratification.
I'd do it!

Simply ignore the wifes car that doesn't run well, kids need shoes for
school, and you're two months late getting the cat spayed...   d:->))
Tim Wescott - 27 Aug 2006 21:19 GMT
>>I'm thinking I should draw up plans for what it _should_ be, then
>>rebuild it to that spec.  It'll be prettier, stronger, lighter and
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> Simply ignore the wifes car that doesn't run well, kids need shoes for
> school, and you're two months late getting the cat spayed...   d:->))

Could be.

The last three models I built (not counting the ARF) I've done with no
plans, as a way of decompressing from engineering work.  I think maybe
it's time to do some planning ahead before I cut balsa...

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KenS - 29 Aug 2006 14:06 GMT
>  I think maybe it's time to do some planning ahead before I cut balsa...

Where's the sport in that?... Measure once, cut twice, and use quality
adhesives on the splices ;-)

>>>I'm thinking I should draw up plans for what it _should_ be, then
>>>rebuild it to that spec.  It'll be prettier, stronger, lighter and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> plans, as a way of decompressing from engineering work.  I think maybe
> it's time to do some planning ahead before I cut balsa...
Tim Wescott - 27 Aug 2006 18:11 GMT
> After taking some time off to experience intense back pain I took the
> Laird Solution out flying today.  I blocked off the notch where the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Now, do I try to make what I have look good, or do I just build another
> one...

Follow up:

I knew that Bob Aberle had published a Solution article in the February
'06 Flying Models magazine, so I read it last night to see if he
mentioned any lateral instability.  Guess what?  His vertical stab &
rudder are about 15% bigger than scale!  Further, he mentions in the
text that he tried it with the scale outline first, and it didn't fly
well at all!

Well, that's validation.

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"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

 
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