hydrogen powered Horten flying-wing
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Ron van Sommeren - 27 Sep 2006 17:52 GMT Goedendag,
At this years Aspach electric event (South Germany, best, biggest in the world? http://www.mfg-aspach.de/)
Hydrogen powered Horten flying wing + diy outrunner Pictures <http://home.euphonynet.be/nidelectron/album/medium/0103.jpg> <http://home.euphonynet.be/nidelectron/album/medium/0100.jpg> <http://home.euphonynet.be/nidelectron/album/medium/0102.jpg> Videos & tech/development info http://hy-fly.de/
Motor: 10mm outrunner kit from http://www.batt-mann.de Fuel: iquid hydrogen (99,9%) in two plastic bottles at 10 bar pressure Stack consists of 12 cells ( http://www.heliocentris.com/) Stack weight: 1,1kg Max power: 65Watt, 6Volt, 11Ampère Wingspan: 2m Weight: 650gr (empty of course) Plastic bottles (tested at 20bar) will be replaced by aluminium bottles (tested at ?? bar)
Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren near Nijmegen, the Netherlands 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
Storm's Hamilton - 27 Sep 2006 19:28 GMT > Goedendag, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > near Nijmegen, the Netherlands > 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/ That's pretty cool. Fuel cell? Help me understand this. mk
anonymous - 28 Sep 2006 15:09 GMT > Goedendag, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Motor: 10mm outrunner kit from http://www.batt-mann.de > Fuel: iquid hydrogen (99,9%) in two plastic bottles at 10 bar pressure The fuel is cryogenic? Like -253 degrees centigrade? How does it stay cold?
Or is it just pressurised gas? -- Anon
Hp - 28 Sep 2006 16:20 GMT That would be interesting if it was in English. How many here agree that English is the language of the world? Just wondering ,I could be wrong.
>> Goedendag, >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Anon Ron van Sommeren - 28 Sep 2006 17:26 GMT Goedendag (a Dutch word),
I would have posted English/American sites if they existed. No doubt this German project will sparc some ideas outside of Germany and we'll see similar sites in the 'language of the world'. Those *&^%$# Germans are just to modest, they need a Dutchman to spread the word. Use http://babelfish.altavista.com for online translation (and a good laugh, automatic translation is far from perfect yet).
Vriendelijke groeten (also Dutch), Ron van Sommeren near Nijmegen, the Netherlands
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> That would be interesting if it was in English. How many here agree that > English is the language of the world? Just wondering ,I could be wrong. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> -- >> Anon Beav - 28 Sep 2006 21:43 GMT > Goedendag (a Dutch word), > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Use http://babelfish.altavista.com for online translation (and a good > laugh, automatic translation is far from perfect yet). It may not be perfect (far from it, in fact) but it's more fun than some TV comedy shows:-)
> Vriendelijke groeten (also Dutch), Ron van Sommeren > near Nijmegen, the Netherlands I was over in your neck of the woods last month Ron. It rained the whole time and I couldn't get out quickly enough, although I did try :-) 148mph along that road they've built in the north of Holland connected to two peninsulars going to Leeuwarden/Groningen. Water both sides, water coming down from above and only lightning to illuminate the way:-)
 Signature Beav
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Ron van Sommeren - 28 Sep 2006 22:02 GMT "Beav" wrote in
> I was over in your neck of the woods last month Ron. It rained the whole > time ... We are having lovely weather here in September, somebody up there must have switched August and September.
> ... and I couldn't get out quickly enough, although I did try :-) 148mph Good thing the police did not see you, you would have had to hand over your car to them. Verrrrry stiff fines ...
Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron near Nijmegen, the Netherlands 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
Doug McLaren - 28 Sep 2006 17:36 GMT | That would be interesting if it was in English. Try using http://www.google.com/language_tools or http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to do the conversion for you. They're not perfect, but it's often good enough.
| How many here agree that English is the language of the world? English is perhaps the most commonly used language on Usenet, the Internet, and the WWW. If there is a `universal language' for these things, it would be English.
However, English is *not* the language of the world, and it's incredibly arrogant for an English speaker to suggest that.
And besides, even if you don't understand the language, you can always gawk at the pretty pictures!
| Just wondering ,I could be wrong. I guess you could ...
| >> Motor: 10mm outrunner kit from http://www.batt-mann.de | >> Fuel: iquid hydrogen (99,9%) in two plastic bottles at 10 bar pressure | > | > The fuel is cryogenic? Like -253 degrees centigrade? How does | > it stay cold? `10 bar pressure' suggests pressurized gas.
Looks like a fuel cell too.
Neat concept.
| > Or is it just pressurised gas?  Signature Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us Donuts. Is there anything that they can't do? --Homer
Beav - 28 Sep 2006 21:39 GMT > That would be interesting if it was in English. It was pretty interesting in German too.
How many here agree that
> English is the language of the world? Engllish is an interntaional language, but it's not the language of the world.
Just wondering ,I could be wrong.
You could also try learning a 2nd or 3rd language yourself. It's not quite as easy as you seem to imagine.
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Ron van Sommeren - 28 Sep 2006 19:07 GMT Goedendag ;-)
It can fly for 6 minutes, it is said somewhere in the videos. At 1,1kg the fuel cell is pretty heavy, it can be made much lighter.
Full scale developments: http://www.initiative-brennstoffzelle.de/de/ibz/live/nachrichten/detail/229.html
By the way, the pictures are not mine, they were made by Paul-Henri Tirtiaux from Belgium. I could not make it, my back is giving me troubles (that's what you get when you're over 2 meters tall :( ), I could not drive the 450km. Next year ...
Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren near Nijmegen, the Netherlands 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
> Goedendag, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > near Nijmegen, the Netherlands > 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/ Sparky - 28 Sep 2006 19:48 GMT > Goedendag ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> near Nijmegen, the Netherlands >> 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/ Is a bar one atmosphere? TIA
Ed Cregger
Ron van Sommeren - 28 Sep 2006 20:30 GMT Ed Cregger wrote
> Is a bar one atmosphere? Yes
Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren near Nijmegen, the Netherlands 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
Greg - 28 Sep 2006 23:59 GMT > Ed Cregger wrote > > Is a bar one atmosphere? > Yes Actually no, a bar is 100,000 Pascal's (the SI unit of pressure), an atmosphere is 1.013 25 bar chosen as the average sea level pressure in Paris.
Greg
Abel Pranger - 29 Sep 2006 00:39 GMT >> Ed Cregger wrote >> > Is a bar one atmosphere? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Greg Damn! All my calculations were off by 1.325%. I've got a lot of errrata to publish.
Abel
Sparky - 29 Sep 2006 03:53 GMT > Ed Cregger wrote >> Is a bar one atmosphere? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > near Nijmegen, the Netherlands > 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/ Thanks.
Ed Cregger
Allan - 29 Sep 2006 15:15 GMT Well, I think the thing is pretty damn good!!
A lot of modellers have enough trouble with their 100 year old technology engines and 30+ year old technology radio gear.
I think the guy deserves full congratulations and top marks for inventiveness, skill, knowledge and practical application!
Very well done indeed!
Allan
> Goedendag ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> near Nijmegen, the Netherlands >> 2007 E-fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
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