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Krylon crystal clear 1301 Acrylic Coating

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Doc Ferguson - 21 Oct 2006 22:10 GMT
Yes it is available everywhere.  However rather than just paying for
spray cans has anyone come up with bulk item in pints or quarts that
can be thinned and used in an airbrush.  Is there a substitute
for spray krylon that one can use in his own spray equipment.   I am
finding good uses for the spray on gampi tissue for light models.
I am using Apple Barrell brands for airbrushing and it is water based
which is great for spraying foam and tissue models.  Cutting with
alcohol speeds drying time and spreading evenly.  Now if I could find
the clear gloss like Krylon that would be great.
I am sure someone has come up with a substitution instead of the cans
of spray.
Doc Ferguson
Ray Haddad - 21 Oct 2006 22:24 GMT
>Yes it is available everywhere.  However rather than just paying for
>spray cans has anyone come up with bulk item in pints or quarts that
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>I am sure someone has come up with a substitution instead of the cans
>of spray.

Seems to me that any clear acrylic wood finish would work if
thinned. Try the local hardware store.
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Ray
Mark Daughtry, SR - 22 Oct 2006 00:07 GMT
Try Future floor finish. It's acrylic and can be cleaned up with ammonia.

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Mark Daughtry, SR

> Yes it is available everywhere.  However rather than just paying for
> spray cans has anyone come up with bulk item in pints or quarts that
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> of spray.
> Doc Ferguson
Frank Schwartz - 22 Oct 2006 05:15 GMT
>Try Future floor finish. It's acrylic and can be cleaned up with ammonia.

Good idea.   A few years back I built a 12 foot Telemaster and used
Coverite 21st Century prepainted fabric. Fantastic stuff and easiest
covering job I had ever done. I did, however, seal the edges with
clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
Frank Schwartz
Six_O'Clock_High - 22 Oct 2006 22:15 GMT
Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it up...

>>Try Future floor finish. It's acrylic and can be cleaned up with ammonia.
>
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> clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
> Frank Schwartz
BCRandy - 23 Oct 2006 12:37 GMT
Having been out of modeling since the late 50s, I joined
this group to try and get caught up with technology.  My
question is, would these finishes be fuel proof or they for
use with electric power only?

Randy

> Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it
> up...
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>> clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
>> Frank Schwartz
Doc Ferguson - 23 Oct 2006 14:35 GMT
> Having been out of modeling since the late 50s, I joined
> this group to try and get caught up with technology.  My
> question is, would these finishes be fuel proof or they for
> use with electric power only?
>
> Randy

This would be mainly for light framed electric powered.   The spray
would add strength and not suffer from weight gain if applied
correctly.
Doc Ferguson

> > Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it
> > up...
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> >> clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
> >> Frank Schwartz
Six_O'Clock_High - 24 Oct 2006 00:43 GMT
If you let it cure properly and apply 2 coats, it is good.  I know for
sure that I have tested it at 10% on a regular basis.  I think I have tested
it at 15% but I don't recall for sure, it may have been on a bird that did
not get the Minwax.

Jim

> Having been out of modeling since the late 50s, I joined this group to try
> and get caught up with technology.  My question is, would these finishes
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>>> clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
>>> Frank Schwartz
Doc Ferguson - 23 Oct 2006 14:32 GMT
> Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it up...
>
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> > clear polyurethane.  Worked for me.
> > Frank Schwartz

The miniwax polyurathane sounds like the best idea.  I am sure I could
cut it with alcohol and aid in spraying thin coats and speed up drying
time.
Thanks

Doc Ferguson
Ed Forsythe - 25 Oct 2006 14:33 GMT
Hmmm, Water soluble?  Wouldn't it be better to thin it with water or am I
wrong?

>> Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it up...
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>
> Doc Ferguson
Ted Campanelli - 26 Oct 2006 23:56 GMT
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:
>> Try Minwax Polyurathane Clear Varnish...water cleans it up...
>>
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>
> Doc Ferguson

MinWax Polycrylic is fuel RESISTANT to 15% nitro as long as you follow
the following caveats:

1.  Let the poly dry a MINIMUM of 7 days before exposing to exhaust residue.

2.  Do not let the residue remain on the plane for more than 4 hours.
At about 4 hours the finish begins to soften.

As for thinning the poly,  It is quite thin right out of the can.  I
really do not feel the poly needs any additional thinning.

I do suggest adding 1 1/2 caps of Flotrol per quart of poly AND/OR latex
paint PRIOR to any thinning.  The Flotrol retards the drying time
somewhat and allows the poly/paint more time to "level" itself out.
 
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