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AV8R - 06 Nov 2006 22:34 GMT
Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
Six_O'Clock_High - 07 Nov 2006 04:12 GMT
> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.

>cough cough<

What a kite.  You should see it fly overpowered and heavy.

I have one in the bones to replace the one that died due to a radio failure
last summer, just after rotation.  Lots and lots of toothpicks... :(

Holler again in a couple of months and I will tell what the new all up
weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
put a G62 on it.
AV8R - 07 Nov 2006 05:35 GMT
It needs at least a G62.

> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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> weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
> put a G62 on it.
Ed Cregger - 07 Nov 2006 06:42 GMT
> It needs at least a G62.
>
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>> weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
>> put a G62 on it.

I still want to talk to someone that flew it with the Nosen recommended glow
.60 two-stroke. <G>

The wife and I covered one of these behemoths for a friend many years ago.
We started Friday night after work and didn't finish until evening of
Sunday. The house stunk of heated Worldtex for a weak afterwards.

I'd like to have one for myself.

Ed Cregger
Six_O'Clock_High - 09 Nov 2006 02:13 GMT
Last years version flew extremely well with the Q 50 so the G62 will be
overkill, especially since it was designed to be flown with MUCH smaller
engines (Q35 for one).  Don't know which one will wind up on this years
version.

> It needs at least a G62.
>
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>> weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
>> put a G62 on it.
Ed Cregger - 09 Nov 2006 05:44 GMT
> Last years version flew extremely well with the Q 50 so the G62 will be
> overkill, especially since it was designed to be flown with MUCH smaller
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>>> and
>>> put a G62 on it.

The one that the wife and I covered for a friend, which I bought from
another friend and sold to the guy wanting it covered, was designed to be
flown with a glow two-stroke .60 on a belt reduction drive.

The owner intended to utilize a Q35 on it, but I had my doubts about the
airframe holding up to the pounding. It had not been beefed up from the
original design for the .60 at all and was making me wonder if the firewall
would hold the engine without it running, much less running.

Yes, it most definitely was intended to be a kite. The novelty of a model of
that size flying at all in those days would have drawn folks from several
counties to observe a flight if publicly announced. This was in the very
late Seventies/early Eighties, IIRC. And I know I do.

Ed Cregger
Six_O'Clock_High - 11 Nov 2006 15:24 GMT
>> Last years version flew extremely well with the Q 50 so the G62 will be
>> overkill, especially since it was designed to be flown with MUCH smaller
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>
> Ed Cregger

Ed,
Unless the FW was 1/4 ply unsupported, it should be fine without any
significant beefing up.   All I did to mount the Q 50 was put a double on
the front of the FW to spread the load more toward the edges.  Of course the
double was 1/4 AC ply.

Jim
Ed Cregger - 12 Nov 2006 06:16 GMT
> Ed,
> Unless the FW was 1/4 ply unsupported, it should be fine without any
> significant beefing up.   All I did to mount the Q 50 was put a double on
> the front of the FW to spread the load more toward the edges.  Of course
> the double was 1/4 AC ply.

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Well, it was flimsy looking. But what do I know? Glad to hear that it
wasn't.

I offered to pay the gentleman his asking price for the Gere Sport kit he
advertised for sale on this newsgroup if he paid shipping. Haven't heard a
thing back from him.

Now my interests have changed. I'm not interested any longer.

Just as well, I suppose. I'd probably either have to build a trailer or
trade-in the minivan for something larger. Hmm, now that I think of it, all
I needed was a trailer hitch so I could tow it to the field.

Ed Cregger
tom withers - 24 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
Hi Ed
I got my newsgroups to work,,wanted to say hi..
Thomas

>> Ed,
>> Unless the FW was 1/4 ply unsupported, it should be fine without any
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>
> Ed Cregger
Ed Cregger - 24 Nov 2006 16:35 GMT
> Hi Ed
> I got my newsgroups to work,,wanted to say hi..
> Thomas

Hi, Tom. Glad to hear from you again.

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. We did.

Ed Cregger
pcoopy - 16 Dec 2006 14:45 GMT
Radio Failure....isn't that a '70's term meaning pilot error?..haha :-)

Phil AMA609

> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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> weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
> put a G62 on it.
Six_O'Clock_High - 17 Dec 2006 04:00 GMT
Might have been, but this was actually traced down to a broken wire in the
power circuit.  The break was inside the insulation and only showed up if
you moved the wire in a particular direction.  :(

A group of us were very upset over the loss of the aircraft and spent
significant time trying to figure out why.  The culprit was discovered by
accident during a test of another system.

.
> Radio Failure....isn't that a '70's term meaning pilot error?..haha :-)
>
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>> weight is...pretty sure it will have a Q 50 unless I get obstreperous and
>> put a G62 on it.
Ed Cregger - 07 Nov 2006 06:43 GMT
> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.

Is the kit still available? If it is in pristine condition and you will pay
the shipping, I'll pay your asking price via PayPal. Let me know.

Ed Cregger
Morgans - 07 Nov 2006 10:27 GMT
>> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
>> ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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>
> Ed Cregger

He has a valid return E-mail.
AV8R - 14 Nov 2006 02:51 GMT
OOps....sorry Ed. Didn't see your post. I do have it but Paypal is a NO
NO!
www.PayPalSucks.com

> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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>
> Ed Cregger
Ed Cregger - 14 Nov 2006 03:55 GMT
> OOps....sorry Ed. Didn't see your post. I do have it but Paypal is a NO
> NO!
> www.PayPalSucks.com

Oh well. Thanks anyway.

Ed Cregger
Doc Ferguson - 12 Nov 2006 15:54 GMT
> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.

The Gerry Sport is tempting.  However I have been looking for a Bud
Nosen Trainer.  Now thats a forest of balsa.  If I cannot find the kit
I would like to find a set of plans to attempt to scratch build this
legend.   Doc Ferguson
Paintballmavin - 13 Nov 2006 17:26 GMT
I have a Bud Nosen trainer that's been sitting in the shed for a number of
years, & the wing has suffered so much damage that I feel it would be easier
to build a new on rather than try to revive the original.  I am also very
interested ing a set of plans.

> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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> I would like to find a set of plans to attempt to scratch build this
> legend.   Doc Ferguson

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Robbie and Laura Reynolds - 18 Nov 2006 14:33 GMT
I built a Bud Nosen trainer a few years ago.  I was dumb enough to put a
91 Surpass on it, which was WAY overpowered.  For the "throttle back"
chorus that usually chimes in at this point in the conversation, it
wouldn't sit still on the runway.  It taxied too fast all the time, plus
it was just too much in the air.  I suppose I could have tried some very
low pitch props on it.  Anyway, I wonder what it would have been like
with the recommended .60 instead of a 91.  I wouldn't mind building one
again some day.

> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I would like to find a set of plans to attempt to scratch build this
> legend.   Doc Ferguson
Ed Cregger - 18 Nov 2006 15:40 GMT
>I built a Bud Nosen trainer a few years ago.  I was dumb enough to put a
> 91 Surpass on it, which was WAY overpowered.  For the "throttle back"
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> with the recommended .60 instead of a 91.  I wouldn't mind building one
> again some day.

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When flying off smooth, hard surfaces, just about any size engine will pull
the model forward at idle.

I used to pull the nose gear wheel collar off and insert a piece of fuel
line over the axle, then reinstall the wheel collar. By adjusting the wheel
collar closer or farther from the wheel hub, you could adjust the amount of
"braking" you received from the piece of fuel liine.

Ed Cregger
Robbie and Laura Reynolds - 18 Nov 2006 18:08 GMT
> When flying off smooth, hard surfaces, just about any size engine will pull
> the model forward at idle.
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>
> Ed Cregger

That's a clever idea.  My Nosen Trainer was also equipped with four
optional engine pods and OS 26 engines.  In four-engine configuration,
the 91 came off and a cover plate was placed over the hole in the balsa
cowling.  It looked great, and the four 4-strokes running at the same
time was a very nice sound.  And the throttle linkage was an engineering
feat to be proud of.  Unfortunately, in this configuration it taxied at
almost take-off speed.  I had to taxi it in the grass, and it was still
too much.  The plane made me nervous enough that I decided to sell it
before I wrecked it.  I'm sure a piece of fuel line on the nosegear
would have helped, but it was a handful in the air anyway.
KTK - 13 Dec 2006 20:41 GMT
OK, I am wondering did the Gere Sport get sold?  If not, where do I sen
the check

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KT
Doc Ferguson - 19 Nov 2006 14:57 GMT
> > Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> > ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.
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> I would like to find a set of plans to attempt to scratch build this
> legend.   Doc Ferguson

OK< Who is hoarding all the Bud Nosen Plans.  Yah you out there
chuckling, clutching some of the only plans that were hung on to.  Come
on Share with the rest of us that did not hang on to plans thinking
they would always be around.  Pretty soon I will be asking for broken
wings and do a post on them, recreate ribs, etc.
Ah a fuselage broken.  Another autopsy and the fuselage is created
Elevator and Rudder................and a Bud Nosen Plane is " Alive,"
Its Alive.
Doc Ferguson
tskj12 - 06 Dec 2006 03:33 GMT
Hi,

I've been looking for a set of plans for the Gere Sport.  I have a
older Nosen kit that somehow lost its plans. Would really appreciate i
I could get a copy from someone who has the plans.

Jeva

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tskj1
Six_O'Clock_High - 06 Dec 2006 20:22 GMT
ok...lemme check

> Hi,
>
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>
> Jevan
Six_O'Clock_High - 10 Dec 2006 17:08 GMT
All I have to do is get time to rummage through the attic....promise to get
to it in the next two days...

Jim

> ok...lemme check
>
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>>
>> Jevan
TRDRJON - 20 Feb 2007 01:37 GMT
AV8R Wrote:
> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport I'm never going to build. Great kit. 8
> ft biplane. $250.00 takes it.

ANY CHANCE THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE GERE SPORT FOR SALE??

jOH

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TRDRJO
Lyman Slack - 21 Feb 2007 22:24 GMT
It's a "Gere Sport" gents :-)
Cheers -- Lyman

>> Got a NIB Bud Nosen Gerry Sport
 
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