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wan - 28 Jan 2007 21:06 GMT
Hi,

Please read the date below when I first posted this idea in 2006. And
if you searched my profile, you'd find the other people's responses.

Also if you have the Feb. 2007 issue of Model Aviation, you will find
on page 14 the system offered by John Durant on a no linkage servo.
Please read the article to learn about this idea further.

Sort of justifies my "crazy idea" don't you think?

Wan

1.  wanj...@toast.net
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More options Mar 18 2006, 4:20 pm
Here we go. I've dropped the idea of cordless servos in an earlier
post for now.
How about servos that are configured to fit the trailing edges of
wings, stabilizers, and vertical fins? That way, the servo arms
become
part of the flying surfaces.

Servos may be built large or small, but with this idea, the  servo to
moving part linkage would be eliminated, and movements become more
accurate.

Of course you may see problems for balancing, but with the design of
the plane made to allow for the so placed servos...

Please chew on this for awhile : ) See any problems?

Wan
chris-s@mailcity.com - 29 Jan 2007 09:48 GMT
Geez, so many problems where to start. Just try to imagine how many
different sizes of servo would be required to suit a large range of
applications, and then consider the manufacturing implications, this
alone should be enough for you to realise what a impractical idea it
is.

> Hi,
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> Wan
wan - 29 Jan 2007 13:16 GMT
On Jan 29, 4:48 am, chri...@mailcity.com wrote:
> Geez, so many problems where to start. Just try to imagine how many
> different sizes of servo would be required to suit a large range of
> applications, and then consider the manufacturing implications, this
> alone should be enough for you to realise what a impractical idea it
> is.

If you read the article in Model Aviation, current issue page 14, I
believe the problems you are concerned about have been solved. Please
let me quote in part, that article "John proved the concept through
the most demanding flying he could find: Giant Scale, Unlimited-class
IMAC (International Miniature Aerobatic Club). Four years and several
thousand flights later, not a single Direct Drive failure has
occurred".

I am not a representative of the company, nor trying to make a
commercial. Just want to vindicate my idea that I mentioned in the
earlier part of this posting.

Furthermore, John DuRant offers custom made cases at no charge. Can't
ask for better than that, can you?

Wan

> > Hi,
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> > Wan
MK - 29 Jan 2007 13:30 GMT
I saw that in MA and thought of that thread but I fly smaller planes and
would have to REALLY study it before trying it.
mk

> On Jan 29, 4:48 am, chri...@mailcity.com wrote:
>> Geez, so many problems where to start. Just try to imagine how many
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>> > Wan
wan - 30 Jan 2007 02:55 GMT
> I saw that in MA and thought of that thread but I fly smaller planes and
> would have to REALLY study it before trying it.
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> >> > Wan

I am back. A curious friend just called up and said he logged onto the
site given in the article (MA page 14) and found some photos.The
photos show that your preferred servo is housed in a housing made by
that company. The system is almost like my invisioned setup over a
year ago.

Honestly, I am not trying to promote the company, but to inform what's
out there. If you would like to know more, you have log onto the site
youself. When you open the site, you'll find other things in modeling,
but click onto "conversions" photo and you will see how it's done.

Wan
MK - 30 Jan 2007 04:21 GMT
>> I saw that in MA and thought of that thread but I fly smaller planes and
>> would have to REALLY study it before trying it.
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> Wan

He he, that company is about an hour from here.
mk
Ken Day - 31 Jan 2007 02:19 GMT
>Hi,
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>Wan

Wan

I don't get MA. What is the address for that site ?

Thanks

Ken
wan - 31 Jan 2007 12:23 GMT
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> Ken

Ken,

Good to hear from you  again. The address is,
www.durantdirectdrive,com and I believe you'll find it interesting.

Good flying,
Wan
wan - 31 Jan 2007 13:18 GMT
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> Good flying,
> Wan

Ken,

The address for the site though appears blue when posted, did not work
directly for me. I had to paste it onto the search engine in yahoo,
then I found it. Perhaps I should not need to tell you as you are
quite savvy.

WAn
ka8jvx - 31 Jan 2007 14:09 GMT
>> > >Hi,
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> WAn

Take out the "," in front of com and put in ".".
ka8jvx
Ken Day - 01 Feb 2007 15:57 GMT
>> >Hi,
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>Good flying,
>Wan

Good to hear from you Wan. Haven't see you around for a while.
I remember you talking to me about this idea close to a year ago.
Went to the site and looked it over , but  I still haven't 'chewed' it
over enough yet to really comment on it.

Ken
Doug McLaren - 31 Jan 2007 15:49 GMT
| Please read the date below when I first posted this idea in 2006. And
| if you searched my profile, you'd find the other people's responses.
...
| Sort of justifies my "crazy idea" don't you think?

That's an awful lot of words to just say `I told you so!' :)

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Egotist, n.: A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me.
         -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

wan - 31 Jan 2007 20:05 GMT
On Jan 31, 10:49 am, "Doug McLaren" <dougmc
+usenet-20070...@frenzied.us> wrote:
> In article <1170018401.218625.73...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> Egotist, n.: A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me.
>           -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

Yeah, you're right! : )
Ed Forsythe - 31 Jan 2007 23:22 GMT
Congratulations Wan!  I'm sure most of us are proud of you - All great
inventors are bedeviled by naysayers.

> On Jan 31, 10:49 am, "Doug McLaren" <dougmc
> +usenet-20070...@frenzied.us> wrote:
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> Yeah, you're right! : )
Boo - 01 Feb 2007 11:36 GMT
> Congratulations Wan!  I'm sure most of us are proud of you - All great
> inventors are bedeviled by naysayers.

Prats too.

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Boo

wan - 01 Feb 2007 13:22 GMT
On Feb 1, 6:36 am, Boo <reply_to_group_not_me@spam_me_no_spam.net>
wrote:
> > Congratulations Wan!  I'm sure most of us are proud of you - All great
> > inventors are bedeviled by naysayers.
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> Boo

Didn't want to post again, but what is prat?
Wan
Ed Forsythe - 01 Feb 2007 17:38 GMT
Hi Wan,
LOL - Boo got me too.  I Googled it and prat = buttocks.  Thanks Boo for
adding significantly to my vocabulary. Now I may use prathole without
seeming vulgar ;-))

> On Feb 1, 6:36 am, Boo <reply_to_group_not_me@spam_me_no_spam.net>
> wrote:
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> Didn't want to post again, but what is prat?
> Wan
wan - 01 Feb 2007 18:51 GMT
> Hi Wan,
> LOL - Boo got me too.  I Googled it and prat = buttocks.  Thanks Boo for
> adding significantly to my vocabulary. Now I may use prathole without
> seeming vulgar ;-))

Sorry, can't but really LOL at your comment. prathole, huh : )

> > On Feb 1, 6:36 am, Boo <reply_to_group_not_me@spam_me_no_spam.net>
> > wrote:
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> > Didn't want to post again, but what is prat?
> > Wan
Ken Day - 02 Feb 2007 08:44 GMT
>> Hi Wan,
>> LOL - Boo got me too.  I Googled it and prat = buttocks.  Thanks Boo for
>> adding significantly to my vocabulary. Now I may use prathole without
>> seeming vulgar ;-))
>
>Sorry, can't but really LOL at your comment. prathole, huh : )

C'mon Wan , get your head out of your prat lol   :-)

Ken
 
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