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Terence Lynock (MSW) - 19 Feb 2007 16:27 GMT
being at the front does a Canard with control surfaces work the opposite
way around to a normal tailplane?.

                           regards,       Terry
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 19 Feb 2007 16:53 GMT
>being at the front does a Canard with control surfaces work the opposite
>way around to a normal tailplane?

Yes and no.

It obeys the same laws of aerodynamics.

The effects are different because of the different
position.  Considered only with the pressures on
the moving surface, they are the same (pressure
on top or pressure on the bottom).

If you rotate the canard (or its moving parts) against
the relative wind in the same direction as "up elevator",
the nose will be driven downward.

That rotation of the surface on the tail of the plane
drives the tail downward and elevates the nose.  But
that's because the elevators are at the back of the
plane, behind the CG, while the canard is at the
front of the plane, ahead of the CG.

Moving the canard (or its moving parts) in the same
direction as "down elevator" will lift the nose of
the plane.  When the elevator does that, it lifts
the tail of the plane and depresses the nose.

Hope that helps.

                Marty
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Terence Lynock (MSW) - 19 Feb 2007 18:49 GMT
The message <12tjlgej34f7186@news.supernews.com>
from "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" <moleski@canisius.edu> contains these words:

> Moving the canard (or its moving parts) in the same
> direction as "down elevator" will lift the nose of
> the plane.  When the elevator does that, it lifts
> the tail of the plane and depresses the nose.

What I am thinking on is the servo would have to be linked up the
opposite way round to a servo actuating a normal elevator on a
tailplane?,

                                     regards,        Terry
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 19 Feb 2007 20:00 GMT
>> Moving the canard (or its moving parts) in the same
>> direction as "down elevator" will lift the nose of
>> the plane.  When the elevator does that, it lifts
>> the tail of the plane and depresses the nose.

>What I am thinking on is the servo would have to be linked up the
>opposite way round to a servo actuating a normal elevator on a
>tailplane?,

It depends on where you need to locate the servo
to get the Center of Gravity (CG) right for the aiframe.

I prefer control horns under the movable surfaces--just
for aesthetics.

Depending on the size of the aircraft, you might have
the linkage inside the fuselage, out of sight, and
could put the control horn above or below the hinge
line as suited your taste.

Just hook it up the way you like.  Then you can reverse
the servo direction on the transmitter for that channel
so that pulling the stick back causes the movement that
would lift the nose (canard trailing edge goes down)
or lower the nose (canard trailing edge goes up).

                Marty
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Tim Wescott - 19 Feb 2007 17:45 GMT
> being at the front does a Canard with control surfaces work the opposite
> way around to a normal tailplane?.
>
>                             regards,       Terry
Define "opposite".

When you move the elevator down, the canard goes up.  When you move the
elevator up, the canard goes down.  This part is exactly the same as a
horizontal stabilizer with an elevator.  What the plane does is different.

Just hook up the radio, hold the plane at arms length in your left hand
while moving the stick with your right.  Move the plane the way it'll go
in the air (making motor noises is optional).  It should all be clear.

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