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Robert Reynolds - 27 Mar 2007 21:22 GMT
A while back somebody posted a link to a video of a working model rotary
engine.  That was when I had my old computer.  Anybody have that link handy?
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 27 Mar 2007 21:49 GMT
>A while back somebody posted a link to a video of a working model rotary
>engine.  That was when I had my old computer.  Anybody have that link handy?

http://modelrotaryflyer.tripod.com/index.htm

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Robert Reynolds - 28 Mar 2007 03:02 GMT
>> A while back somebody posted a link to a video of a working model rotary
>> engine.  That was when I had my old computer.  Anybody have that link handy?
>
> http://modelrotaryflyer.tripod.com/index.htm
>
>                 Marty

Thanks for the link.  I have a new computer now, and DSL service, but my
DSL has been down today and I'm using the dial-up.  It looks like I'll
have to wait again....
A.T. - 28 Mar 2007 05:35 GMT
Further to "Model Rotary Flyer" provided by Marty, check out all  the
animated engines at http://www.keveney.com/Engines.html including Gnome
Rotary, Wankel, Revolving Cylinder amongst others.

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Alan T.
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>A while back somebody posted a link to a video of a working model rotary
>engine.  That was when I had my old computer.  Anybody have that link
>handy?
DaveH - 28 Mar 2007 13:20 GMT
>A while back somebody posted a link to a video of a working model rotary
>engine.  That was when I had my old computer.  Anybody have that link handy?
Very interesting. The rotating mass of that engine must produce
substantial gyorscopic forces.
Dave
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 28 Mar 2007 14:00 GMT
> ... The rotating mass of that engine must produce
>substantial gyorscopic forces.

The first time I saw a rotary engine was at the Curtis
museum at the foot of Keuka lake.

I was sure that the curator had completely misunderstood
the engine and given false information.  "No one would
spin the crankcase and leave the crankshaft bolted to
the plane.  It doesn't make any sense!"

I was wrong.

It did make sense in its day--power to weight ratio,
cooling, simplicity, reliability, etc.  Of course,
during the war itself, many other engines came along
that were far superior to the rotary engine.  Its
day passed quickly.

In the hands of a good pilot, the gyroscopic forces
could help the plane to turn on a dime (in one
direction, anyway).  To become a good pilot, you had
to keep the airplane from killing you during your
student days.  Many didn't make the transition.

They fly airplanes equipped with rotary engines at
Old Rhinebeck.  The sight and sound is unforgettable.
Some of the early engines only had an on/off switch.
You were at full throttle or deadstick.  Pilots had
to "blip" the kill switch to taxi and to land.
The sound of that on/off cycle is utterly weird
and unique.  As the website explained, the Gnome
160 had magneto settings that reduced power without
turning the engine off entirely.

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Robert Reynolds - 28 Mar 2007 14:32 GMT
> They fly airplanes equipped with rotary engines at
> Old Rhinebeck.  The sight and sound is unforgettable.
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>                 Marty

I have read elsewhere that the "throttle" switch was particularly
dangerous because not only was the spinning engine lurching on and off,
but unburned gasoline was also flying out of the exhaust ports at low
power settings.  A backfire could set the cowling on fire if the engine
was kept at low power for too long.  This problem wouldn't be the worst
thing in the world, except that the planes in those days were covered
with flammable nitrate dope.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 28 Mar 2007 16:13 GMT
>I have read elsewhere that the "throttle" switch was particularly
>dangerous because not only was the spinning engine lurching on and off,
>but unburned gasoline was also flying out of the exhaust ports at low
>power settings.

That sounds right.  They didn't control the flow of gasoline to
the engine, so it would keep pumping gas through the cylinders
and out the exhaust port when the magneto was cut.

>A backfire could set the cowling on fire if the engine
>was kept at low power for too long.  This problem wouldn't be the worst
>thing in the world, except that the planes in those days were covered
>with flammable nitrate dope.

OUCH!

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