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james12@gmail.com - 24 Apr 2007 17:04 GMT
Is it necessary to purchase a pusher propeller or is it satisfactory
to just put a regular prop on backwards ?
( To be used on a WINGO.)
Doug McLaren - 24 Apr 2007 17:07 GMT
| Is it necessary to purchase a pusher propeller or is it satisfactory
| to just put a regular prop on backwards ?
| ( To be used on a WINGO.)

If you can reverse the motor, then it's satisfactory to just put a
regular prop on backwards.

If you can't reverse the motor, then you need to get a pusher prop --
and put it on backwards.

In the case of the Wingo, the motor is probably already reversed for
you, so a normal prop is probably fine.  If the motor has neutral
timing (which is likely, just being a cheap can motor) then if it does
need to be reversed, just reversing the wires will be sufficient.

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Tim Wescott - 24 Apr 2007 21:18 GMT
> | Is it necessary to purchase a pusher propeller or is it satisfactory
> | to just put a regular prop on backwards ?
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> timing (which is likely, just being a cheap can motor) then if it does
> need to be reversed, just reversing the wires will be sufficient.

Check the prop nut more often than 'normal' if you reverse the motor
rotation -- front-winding motors tend to tighten the nut a bit, reversed
ones tend to back it off a bit.

Or just check the prop nut before you fly, every time.  It's what I do,
and the propeller only falls off in really bad crashes.

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The Natural Philosopher - 25 Apr 2007 12:47 GMT
> Is it necessary to purchase a pusher propeller or is it satisfactory
> to just put a regular prop on backwards ?
> ( To be used on a WINGO.)

Reverse the prop and reverse the connections to the motor: If a
brushless only reverse two..its hard to 'reverse three' if uou think
about it :-)
byrocat - 27 Apr 2007 13:35 GMT
Best appraoch is to check the geometry of the prop as it rotates and
compare it to a regular puller/tractor setup.

If you can reverse the engine or motor (depending upon whether it's an
IC or electric), then a regular prop is good enough.  Of course, it
winds up being mounted backwards to that the leading edge is facing
the direction of flight.

If you can't reverse the motor, then you need a pusher prop and that
gets mounted in a "normal" manner -- again, the leading edge is facing
the direction of flight.

A bad setup is where the trailing edge of the prop is now the
effective leading edge -- it becomes a high-speed meat slicer.
Dan_Thomas_nospam@yahoo.com - 27 Apr 2007 16:25 GMT
> A bad setup is where the trailing edge of the prop is now the
> effective leading edge -- it becomes a high-speed meat slicer.

       And a very poor thrust-generator.

     Dan
 
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