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Repairing Shorted Servos

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goodfella - 27 Jun 2007 17:04 GMT
I was setting up dual servos on the ailerons of a 4 star 40. I plugged
a Y connector into a Berg reciever then I plugged brand new Futaba
3004 servos into the Y using extensions. I turned on the transmitter
and plugged the battery in the receiver. Nothing happened when I moved
the aileron sticks. I pulled the servos and tested them on a servo
tester. Still nothing. I thought perhaps bad servos. I had two more
new 3004 servos so I tried them first on the tester, then seperatly on
the reciever. They worked as intended. Then I plugged the servos back
into the Y and plugged everything back in. I then moved the aileron
stick again and still nothing. I pulled the servos again and tried
them on the tester. Nothing. Then I replaced the Y connector and leads
and installed some servos that I had on the bench and the ailerons
worked fine. There must have been a short in either the leads or Y
connector, Since I paid 8 bucks for the Y connector and leads, I cut
the cords on them and threw them away. (I understand this was a knee
jerk reaction, but I didn't have a receipt and I doubt the place I
purchased the seros and wires from would have replaced the servos and
and I was not in a happy frame of mind ) I have had a shorted servo
before, and it looked like a capacitor had burned where the leads come
into the servo. Is it possible to replace the capacitor (or whatever
the component is) and have working servos again. And if I could repair
the servo myself, would it be trustworthy assuming I did the repair
correctly. I would send them in to get repaired but I'm sure the cost
of repair is equal or more than the servo cost new.
The Natural Philosopher - 27 Jun 2007 17:52 GMT
> I was setting up dual servos on the ailerons of a 4 star 40. I plugged
> a Y connector into a Berg reciever then I plugged brand new Futaba
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> correctly. I would send them in to get repaired but I'm sure the cost
> of repair is equal or more than the servo cost new.

Since servos generate no power, its hard to see how shorting their leads
could damage them at all.

You are more likely to have damaged the receiver, as the power comes via
that.
goodfella - 27 Jun 2007 18:39 GMT
> > I was setting up dual servos on the ailerons of a 4 star 40. I plugged
> > a Y connector into a Berg reciever then I plugged brand new Futaba
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> You are more likely to have damaged the receiver, as the power comes via
> that.

Perhaps I should have said that the leads were possibly reversed in
the Y or the leads.  The connectors had Futaba ends and were
commecially made so they could only fit one way.
Chuck - 27 Jun 2007 21:51 GMT
They can be repaired if you are into working on microelectronics with
surface mounted parts.
A good soldering iron for this application is far more expensive than the
servos.
Then you will need a good magnifying glass, preferably illuminated. Also not
free.

> > > I was setting up dual servos on the ailerons of a 4 star 40. I plugged
> > > a Y connector into a Berg reciever then I plugged brand new Futaba
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> the Y or the leads.  The connectors had Futaba ends and were
> commecially made so they could only fit one way.
The Natural Philosopher - 28 Jun 2007 11:39 GMT
>>> I was setting up dual servos on the ailerons of a 4 star 40. I plugged
>>> a Y connector into a Berg reciever then I plugged brand new Futaba
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> the Y or the leads.  The connectors had Futaba ends and were
> commecially made so they could only fit one way.

Well they usually survive being reversed..since the positive is in the
middle that always ends up in the right place, and you generally end up
with the -ve on the signal line instead of the earth, which usually does
nothing at all.

If you got your wiring so messed up that you put the voltage on
backwards that would probably not be a Good Thing tho, but that would
require two miswires.
Tom Minger - 28 Jun 2007 22:38 GMT
>> Perhaps I should have said that the leads were possibly reversed in
>> the Y or the leads.  The connectors had Futaba ends and were
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> that would probably not be a Good Thing tho, but that would require two
> miswires.

Simply plugging in a servo backwards will not cause harm to the servo. The
problem comes in if the Y harness was designed for old style Airtronics
which has Plus and Minus leads reversed from that of Futaba, JR and Hitec.
Hooking up a Futaba servo to this kind of harness, or to a harness
misassembled witht he plus and minus leads crossed,  will definitely let all
the smoke out, just as it would if you hooked an old style Airtronics servo
to a JR or Futaba harness. To make matters worse, Airtronics did not use
standard color coding on their leads, so it would not be obvious when you
had a reversed polarity situation.

Keep the smoked servos for their plastic parts and buy replacements.
Consider this a $50 training exercise. Every time you need a gear set or a
case part, you get $10 of the $50 back......
MJKolodziej - 29 Jun 2007 05:02 GMT
>>> Perhaps I should have said that the leads were possibly reversed in
>>> the Y or the leads.  The connectors had Futaba ends and were
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Consider this a $50 training exercise. Every time you need a gear set or a
> case part, you get $10 of the $50 back......

I tie a knot in the lead or mark the dead servo with masking tape and a pen.
mk
Gavin - 27 Jun 2007 19:37 GMT
> Is it possible to replace the capacitor (or whatever
>the component is) and have working servos again. And if I could repair
>the servo myself, would it be trustworthy assuming I did the repair
>correctly. I would send them in to get repaired but I'm sure the cost
>of repair is equal or more than the servo cost new.

Is it worth it? to save a few bucks your risking your plane.  Sure you
may do a great job, but to me I'd just throuw them and buy more
servo's
 
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