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HELP:  Newbee to Flying RC Aircraft...

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samadams_2006@yahoo.ca - 19 Aug 2007 02:58 GMT
Hello,

I'm new to flying RC Aircraft, and recently purchased an electric
"crash proof" trainer to get started.  I'm glad that it's crash
proof...it's needing this ability.  I don't know all the names of the
controls, but I'll try to explain the problem as best I can.

My RC controller has two toggle switches, one on the left that goes up
and down, and one on the right that goes left to right.  The
instructions tell me to throw the airplane into the wind, at eye
level, and parallel with the ground.  While I do this, I push the
toggle on the left all the way to the top, and the engine of the plane
roars.

Well, the plane climbs, and this is where something goes wrong.  It
starts to vear to the left, and eventually I lose control of it, and
it crashes.

Possible problems are:

1)  I am not using alkaline AA batteries as suggested, just regular AA
batteries.  I'm wondering if the plane does not have enough power, and
this is causing it to vear and crash rather than having enough power
to force itself through the problem.
2)  I have a guide that tells me to bend the tail section of the plane
up or down (it's styrofoam) if the plane is not performing properly.
3)  I try to correct the flight by pushing the right toggle to the
left and right to try and correct it...but it doesn't seem to help.

Any advice on what the problem is?  Are there any good Web Sites to
teach me how to fly RC Airplanes?

Thanks
Sam
Vegasfan - 19 Aug 2007 03:08 GMT
What kind of a crash proof trainer did you get? Is it possible you
weren't throwing it directly into the wind? You need to throttle up
before you launch it, not during or after launch.
  How many times have you crashed it? If only once, then I recommend
trying again and maybe have someone else launch the plane for you.
  I don't think the batteries are an issue. They will probably give you
the power you need but just not last as long. My guess is that the
batteries are in the transmitter anyway so they have no effect on the
power of the plane. I would think that the plane would have some sort of
a rechargeable battery.

> Hello,
>
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> Thanks
> Sam
samadams_2006@yahoo.ca - 19 Aug 2007 04:31 GMT
> What kind of a crash proof trainer did you get? Is it possible you
> weren't throwing it directly into the wind? You need to throttle up
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> > Thanks
> > Sam

It's called the "Sky Soldier" Airplane.  It sells on EBay from time-to-
time.
mjc13<REMOVETHIS> - 19 Aug 2007 09:35 GMT
>>What kind of a crash proof trainer did you get? Is it possible you
>>weren't throwing it directly into the wind? You need to throttle up
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> It's called the "Sky Soldier" Airplane.  It sells on EBay from time-to-
> time.

    Your plane has no elevator or rudder controls, so don't worry about
them. Like my powered glider, it steers by varying the power between the
two motors. It sounds like what is happening is either the plane is
climbing too steeply (this is especially common when you launch into a
stiff breeze, or if it has lots of power) and "stalling", or it's
veering into a bank (turn) and you aren't correcting for it. Planes like
this generally need to be turned gradually, so if there is no breeze you
want to use short (about 1 second) movements of the right stick, with a
second or two in between, to turn. If the breeze is making it bank,
though, give it more "steering", plus enough power to keep it climbing
slowly but surely. You want to get at least 30' off the ground, so you
have some time to correct mistakes before they result in crashes...

   It takes practice. Don't get discouraged.
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 19 Aug 2007 03:54 GMT
>My RC controller has two toggle switches ...

We call them "sticks."

The sticks are on gimbals and the gimbals are
connected to potentiometers or pots.

Your left stick is your throttle.

Your right stick is ... uh ... aileron
or rudder.

Ailerons are on the wings; rudders are on the
tail.

>Well, the plane climbs, and this is where something goes wrong.  It
>starts to vear to the left, and eventually I lose control of it, and
>it crashes.

You might try lowering the throttle.  That may
help to reduce the tendency for the plane to roll
to the left.  You want enough power for a slow,
manageable climb.

>1)  I am not using alkaline AA batteries as suggested, just regular AA
>batteries.  I'm wondering if the plane does not have enough power, and
>this is causing it to vear and crash rather than having enough power
>to force itself through the problem.

No, the batteries are not a problem.

>2)  I have a guide that tells me to bend the tail section of the plane
>up or down (it's styrofoam) if the plane is not performing properly.

You may try a little bit of down-elevator on the left side
to counteract the leftward lurch.  Or put a little twist
downward into the trailing edge of the left wing.

>3)  I try to correct the flight by pushing the right toggle to the
>left and right to try and correct it...but it doesn't seem to help.

Well, you want to push the right stick to the right if the
plane is yawing or rolling to the left.

Yaw: moving the nose of the plane left or right of the
preceding line of flight.  Yaw is normally caused by
movements of the rudder.

Roll: when the wings of the plane rotate around the
centerline of the fuselage.  Roll is normally caused
by movements of the ailerons.

> ... Are there any good Web Sites to
>teach me how to fly RC Airplanes?

There probably are.  I learned from a friend, so I
never went looking for a web site like that.

                Marty
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The Natural Philosopher - 19 Aug 2007 03:55 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks
> Sam

Its trying to climb too hard, and stalling.

Bend the back of the tail down a little, Try again
Morgans - 19 Aug 2007 14:05 GMT
Turn the plane and the control box on, and throw it slightly downward, with
no power.  Being on a chair or ladder or small hill should help.

You need to get it to glide straight, and smoothly, going down slowly, just
like a well behaved paper airplane.  After that, it will fly right, when you
try again.
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Jim in NC

samadams_2006@yahoo.ca - 30 Aug 2007 10:30 GMT
> <samadams_2...@yahoo.ca> wrote
>
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> --
> Jim in NC

What does it mean to turn the plane and control box on, yet without
power?
The Natural Philosopher - 30 Aug 2007 10:48 GMT
>> <samadams_2...@yahoo.ca> wrote
>>
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> What does it mean to turn the plane and control box on, yet without
> power?

In the case of those models that have nothing but two motors and rely on
power alone to turn and climb the model, not very mnuch!
 
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