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Red Scholefield - 15 Oct 2007 18:30 GMT
Secret deals and political theatre as Communists usher in the new guard
Jane Macartney in Beijing
In a little over a week, in one of the ornate rooms of the Great Hall of the
People, a curtain will open to reveal the men who will run China for the
next five years, and possibly for much longer.
Yet the process that appoints them to such prominence, just as China marches
towards becoming a great power of the 21st century, remains cloaked in
mystery. For all the skyscrapers, urban glitz and sheer modishness of the
modern China that they inherit, their coming to power is more a throwback to
the days of Mao jackets, bicycles and ration coupons.

The 2,213 delegates gather behind the stocky Stalinist pillars of the Great
Hall this morning to hear President Hu Jintao's report to the five-yearly
gathering. It is a unique piece of theatre. The protagonists perform mainly
off stage. The bit players stick to a prepared script. And the final act,
when the curtain finally opens, shows a line-up of men chosen after much
horse-trading among leaders of interest groups and factions. The congress
retains much of the secrecy of the founding meeting, when 13 delegates,
including Mao Zedong, met in a Shanghai back alley. They had to flee a
police search and ended the session drifting in a boat on a nearby lake.

These days, however, the police are deployed in huge numbers to maintain
security and to sequester or lock up any potential critic. Banned from the
skies are such security threats as model aircraft and paragliders. A
volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.
Ray Haddad - 15 Oct 2007 19:17 GMT
>These days, however, the police are deployed in huge numbers to maintain
>security and to sequester or lock up any potential critic. Banned from the
>skies are such security threats as model aircraft and paragliders.

If you don't believe that they can be a security risk you're not
thinking very clearly, Red. Besides, they only ban them being used
near high risk areas.
--
Ray
Terence Lynock - 17 Oct 2007 16:28 GMT
The message <bkb7h3103ncoif4ip8nn02d05da61v2fci@4ax.com>
from Ray Haddad <rhaddad@iexpress.net.au> contains these words:

> If you don't believe that they can be a security risk you're not
> thinking very clearly, Red. Besides, they only ban them being used
> near high risk areas.
> --
> Ray

Hi Ray,
                   half an hour on eBay will supply all the ingredients
for a Thermite bomb, use old junk 27 Mhz gear from scrap r/c cars and
some bits of Balsa, a motor and prop and you got a flying Thermite bomb
and it is literally that easy so little wonder those-in-high-places are
getting a bit itchy about r/c transmitters etc,

                                 regards,                    Terry
Doug McLaren - 15 Oct 2007 21:48 GMT
| These days, however, the police are deployed in huge numbers to maintain
| security and to sequester or lock up any potential critic. Banned from the
| skies are such security threats as model aircraft and paragliders.

And the US is different?  Perhaps the `no flying' zone is smaller
here, but other than that I don't see much difference.

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Doug McLaren, dougmc@frenzied.us
You have no chance to survive make your time!

jc - 16 Oct 2007 14:02 GMT
>Secret deals and political theatre as Communists usher in the new guard...
<snip>

While China may have just done this, in other places, such as Saudi Arabia, the
possession of transmitters of any kind is forbidden, including those used for
RC planes.  When I lived there some of the royal family were able to have them
but then they got away with all kinds of stuff 'regular' people did not.  The
freedoms we enjoy here in the US are the exception on a world scale, not the
rule.
Cheers,
jc
Jim - 17 Oct 2007 19:03 GMT
What B.S.!  R/C is alive and well in China! I just had the thrill of flying
R/C LAST WEEK at a Chinese Military Aircraft Museum outside Beijing! For
those of you who don't know....Beijing is where the rulers sit!

If you don't believe me, send me your email and I'll send you some pictures!

Jeez, people just like to stir up a bunch of crap about China all the time.
Don't be so paranoid!

> Secret deals and political theatre as Communists usher in the new guard
> Jane Macartney in Beijing
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> volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
> Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.
MJKolodziej - 18 Oct 2007 15:55 GMT
> What B.S.!  R/C is alive and well in China! I just had the thrill of
> flying R/C LAST WEEK at a Chinese Military Aircraft Museum outside
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> Jeez, people just like to stir up a bunch of crap about China all the
> time. Don't be so paranoid!

Now that's funny.  There is a prime example of Marty's theory VS experiment.
:)
mk
rollandfisher - 20 Oct 2007 07:07 GMT
> What B.S.!  R/C is alive and well in China! I just had the thrill of flying
> R/C LAST WEEK at a Chinese Military Aircraft Museum outside Beijing! For
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> > volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
> > Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.

hi, send some picture about what you mentioned please
Jim - 22 Oct 2007 12:05 GMT
You got it Red. Check your email

>> What B.S.!  R/C is alive and well in China! I just had the thrill of
>> flying
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>
> hi, send some picture about what you mentioned please
dbernabeu - 25 Oct 2007 06:54 GMT
Funny to read this display of disinformation...

If you read the article carrefully, you will understand that R/C i
prohibited DURING the congress and in the streets around th
meeting...

In china it's common to see a r/c plane or heli taking off from
sidewalk... Parkflyer at its best.

Don't think it's going to change soon, they are craving for freedom

--
dbernabe
Jim - 25 Oct 2007 16:46 GMT
Absolutely and well said. The amount of disinformation about China is
amazing...including that coming from our own government. Evil Empire indeed!
Go there, see for yourself!

> Funny to read this display of disinformation...
>
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>
> Don't think it's going to change soon, they are craving for freedom.
sailr - 26 May 2008 02:07 GMT
Some of you asked, so here you go:

That's me with the transmitter.

Jim Wrote:
> Absolutely and well said. The amount of disinformation about China is
> amazing...including that coming from our own government. Evil Empir
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> > View this thread
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MJKolodziej - 26 May 2008 16:30 GMT
Pretty cool.
mk

> Some of you asked, so here you go:
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Dave - 19 Oct 2007 02:56 GMT
HUH?

I just got back from China 2 days ago..

R C is alive and well there, and the people are expecting even MORE
freedoms after this Congress finishes....

I suspect it will continue..

It is changing , for better or worse..

The power will ultimately rest with the people with the money, as it
does everywhere else...

One of the HUGE concerns there is their environment, and it is high on
the their agenda....

As for the "back room" political deals..  that kind sounds like Canada
eh? Our parlimentary "proceedings" are pure entertainment on the good
days... The real business is conducted behind closed doors..I would
expect  similar comments from the American members of this forum..

I never saw the "volunteer army",  Most I saw were private security
people and police (I asked) and lots of them.

Shopping areas were crawling with them, former pick-pocket havens were
policed heavily. Anybody trying anything criminal there would have to
have graduated from stupid school....

YMMV!

Dave

>Secret deals and political theatre as Communists usher in the new guard
>Jane Macartney in Beijing
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
>Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.
Jim - 19 Oct 2007 19:56 GMT
Well said Dave. I feel safer walking down the street in China than I do in
this country. The people have more freedom than we do in many ways. Their
big cities are more modern than ours. More than 50% of the people have their
own cars now. Real Estate is more expensive than in the U.S., etc.

If you're smart, you'll get on their side, they're going to take over the
world economically very soon.

And yes, what goes on in Canada goes on in the US tenfold! We are our own
worst enemies in the U.S. Our politicians bad mouth China all the time and
it is not justified. It's just more scare tactics from our current
President.

> HUH?
>
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>>volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
>>Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.
Dave - 20 Oct 2007 01:21 GMT
Well Jim, It WAS quite an experience!

Amazing contrasts..

Their economy is presently powered by only 20% of the population.
There appear to be some very intellegent leaders in their government
who recognise some of the issues and deal with them. ..and the
resources they have to throw at the problem are staggering..

When the other 80% of the population "wakes up" to all the perks and
oportunities we "western" people have, we had better be ready.

We felt very much at ease there. In the cities and tourist spots, lots
of people spoke english (more people speak english in China than in
North America) They are training their  children to work and live in
OUR world, at a frantic pace. They want to learn how we do business,
in order to play  the same game.

They are addressing polution and global warming issues head on, not
bantering about it like we are. One respected official spoke  of this,
saying..

- we (China) produce the same amount of CO2 as the US , but only 1/4
as much PER CAPITA.

- If we do nothing, and the rest of our people have airconditining and
cars in 10 years from now, "we will kill the world." (exact quote)

Now, the OT part  :)

I did not have the time to go find them, but  the R/C sport is
apparently growing  in step with their affluence.

They already  manufacture all the stuff they (and we ) need.

We fly more of their products than they do  ours..

Cheers!

Dave

>Well said Dave. I feel safer walking down the street in China than I do in
>this country. The people have more freedom than we do in many ways. Their
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>>>volunteer army of 824,000, identified by armbands in the style of the Red
>>>Guards, will patrol the streets to watch out for unsavoury behaviour.
 
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