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JR - delta on buddy cord

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Don Sanford - 21 Nov 2007 02:21 GMT
I have a JR XF421EX in a delta with 2 servos. Works great flys good.

"QUESTION" I tried to run a JR buddy box (4 channel non digital) and it did
not work. BB elevator only worked one servo and aileron worked the other
servo. NO MIXING!

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

Don
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 21 Nov 2007 03:34 GMT
>I have a JR XF421EX in a delta with 2 servos. Works great flys good.

>"QUESTION" I tried to run a JR buddy box (4 channel non digital) and it did
>not work. BB elevator only worked one servo and aileron worked the other
>servo. NO MIXING!

>Anyone have any suggestions?

It seems to me that the JR & Hitec systems require
that the buddy box be capable of doing mixing.  The
master TX just passes the signals along from the
buddy box without much (if any) extra interpretation.

I don't know whether the same is true of other makes.

                Marty
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Kevin - 21 Nov 2007 18:55 GMT
>> I have a JR XF421EX in a delta with 2 servos. Works great flys good.
>
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>                 Marty
swap the transmitters and let the pupil use xf421  ???
Doug McLaren - 26 Nov 2007 22:33 GMT
| It seems to me that the JR & Hitec systems require
| that the buddy box be capable of doing mixing.  The
| master TX just passes the signals along from the
| buddy box without much (if any) extra interpretation.

It's not just JR and Hitec -- it's all the lower end master TXs.  And
it's `no interpetation at all' rather than `not much interpetation'.

Generally, what happens is that each (master and buddy) TX takes all
it's gimbal positions, all it's switches and mixes and such and comes
up with a final PPM signal, one for each TX.

If the trainer switch is engaged, the PPM signal from the buddy box is
transmitted.  If not, it's the PPM signal from the master.  Signals
from the two boxes are never mixed, and the master never mixes the
slave's channels in any way.

A few of the higher end transmitters can decode the signal from the
buddy box, and then use that signal to replace a few of it's
gimbal/switch inputs if the training switch is engaged, and then run
that through it's mixers and transmit the resulting signal.  I know
the Futaba 9C and I think the Multiplex Evo 9 have this feature, and
newer models of those lines probably have it too.  I don't think any
Hitec radios have it, and I imagine that the fancier JR radios do, but
I don't know for sure.

Older/cheaper TXs of all models do NOT have this feature.  But if you
have a TX that does, you can use it as the master, and just use a
basic 4 channel buddy box with no programming capability as the slave.

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Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 27 Nov 2007 00:05 GMT
>| It seems to me that the JR & Hitec systems require
>| that the buddy box be capable of doing mixing.  The
>| master TX just passes the signals along from the
>| buddy box without much (if any) extra interpretation.

>It's not just JR and Hitec -- it's all the lower end master TXs.  And
>it's `no interpetation at all' rather than `not much interpetation'.

I have the feeling that the trims on my JR master transmitter
might override the trims on my JR buddy box--but I could be wrong.
It's been a while since I set it up.

>If the trainer switch is engaged, the PPM signal from the buddy box is
>transmitted.  If not, it's the PPM signal from the master.  Signals
>from the two boxes are never mixed, and the master never mixes the
>slave's channels in any way.

>A few of the higher end transmitters can decode the signal from the
>buddy box, and then use that signal to replace a few of it's
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>Hitec radios have it, and I imagine that the fancier JR radios do, but
>I don't know for sure.

My friend's Futaba 9-channel TX lets you pick which channels
the buddy box can control.  It may not be mixing, but it does
do subtraction.

                    Marty

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Alex - 30 Nov 2007 22:49 GMT
On Nov 26, 2:33 pm, "Doug McLaren" <dougmc
+usenet-20071...@frenzied.us> wrote:
> In article <13k79q256r1p...@news.supernews.com>,
>
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> Out of Cheese Error...
> Please reboot universe

My Futaba 8U Super will do as you describe - just look at the gimbals
of the buddy box and use all the internal mixes setup for the current
model.  The few times I tried it, it did work quite well.

Alex.
 
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