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BCRandy - 13 Mar 2008 01:16 GMT
After 30 years, I'm back into modeling, but I've never done
RC.  I've been using the G3.5 simulator and can now do touch
and go's at will, so I've decided to make the leap into an
airplane.  I'll be joining a club and flying at their field
with an instructor.  I picked up a used Futaba Skysport 4
radio and I've decided on electric power, but I still have
several questions.  Unfortunately, the local club meets when
I'm working, so I thought I would ask here.....

1.  Rudder and elevator only or include ailerons?
2.  A .40 sized trainer or a park flyer?
3.  Use the old Skysport as a beginning radio or buy new?
4.  If I buy new, 2.4 gh or FM?
5.  If I go with 2.4 gh, Spectrum DX-7 or Futaba 7C?

I've read up on all these questions and know the technical
side, but the voice of experience can be invaluable.  TIA

Randy
The Natural Philosopher - 13 Mar 2008 12:29 GMT
> After 30 years, I'm back into modeling, but I've never done
> RC.  I've been using the G3.5 simulator and can now do touch
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>
> 1.  Rudder and elevator only or include ailerons?

Your choice really.

Aileron planes tend to be designed to be less 'hands off' than a rudder
controlled plane. I *LIKE* 3 channel stuff myself..these something nice
about propping up the transmitter on the ground and rolling a cigarette
while the model flys itslef  ;-)

> 2.  A .40 sized trainer or a park flyer?

The most docile plane I have are actually a bit larger than a park flier
- sort of 48-60" span lightweight vintage style models. Ther can be 40
sized..but run on les tan 1/3rd the power and are a lot lighter.

A 40 glo trainer is a lot harder to fly than a 'radio assisted'
lightweight model. But it will cope with wind. It needs a runway,
whereas lighter models will fly slower and may be handlaunched. I would
say that its a bit dangerous to take off a 40 glo trainer without an
instructor for the first few times, but a 1-3lb slow model is not too
much of a hazard if you do get disoriented. So if you dont hacve access
to friendly helpers, stay with the ligher models.

> 3.  Use the old Skysport as a beginning radio or buy new?

Use the old. if its street legal

> 4.  If I buy new, 2.4 gh or FM?

2.4 all the way, but be aware that there are 'issues' with all te 2.4Ghz
stuff..if at all possible wait another year andsee what works well at
your club site.

> 5.  If I go with 2.4 gh, Spectrum DX-7 or Futaba 7C?
>
> I've read up on all these questions and know the technical
> side, but the voice of experience can be invaluable.  TIA

I would say that technically the Futaba is a bit better, but there are
severe issues with some Futaba sets right now, still unresolved. Look at
the cost of spare receivers too.

> Randy
Doug McLaren - 14 Mar 2008 07:39 GMT
| > 3.  Use the old Skysport as a beginning radio or buy new?
|
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| stuff..if at all possible wait another year andsee what works well at
| your club site.

To be more precise ...

If you're buying new gear. 2.4 GHz all the way.

If you're buying used gear, there's lots of really nice gear available
at low prices as lots of people are unloading their 72 MHz gear and
buying 2.4 GHz stuff.  Expect to pay less than half the price of new
gear ...

There's not much used 2.4 GHz gear out there, and what there is tends
to command prices close to new, except for the first generation stuff
like the Spektrum DX6.

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Ted Campanelli - 14 Mar 2008 18:20 GMT
Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

Polks Hobby http://www.polkshobby.com/  Is currently having a sale on
the Tracker III 8 channel radio with a Seeker II 8 channel receiver and
1 standard servo for $99.00  The TX and RX are fully synthesized.  I
have the Tracker II and really like the radio and use it almost
exclusively instead of my Futaba 6XAS.  Also has a 5 year warranty.

> After 30 years, I'm back into modeling, but I've never done
> RC.  I've been using the G3.5 simulator and can now do touch
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>
> Randy
Trefor - 15 Mar 2008 11:18 GMT
> 1.  Rudder and elevator only or include ailerons?

Definitely rudder, and ailerons. It's best to learn using both. Also,
takeoffs and landing in a cross wind can be tricky without both. Sometimes
you may be able to take off across the runway into wind, but landing into
that wind could mean going behind the flight  line, which is usually
prohibited.
You can use 3 channel planes later, I have one without ailerons, and another
without rudder, both are fine, but I usually leave the rudder only at home
when there is a cross wind at my field. (The ailerons only is hand launch)

> 2.  A .40 sized trainer or a park flyer?

Definitely a .40 size trainer. Park flyers are fun, but generally resricted
to light winds. An IC trainer can fly easily in winds around 10 MPH. Also
your club is probably geared up to teaching novices on an IC trainer.
Contact your club, there is often a club trainer available, or there may be
a complete setup for sale, usually half the new price

> 3.  Use the old Skysport as a beginning radio or buy new?

The skysport will be fine for now. It will get you flying and you will soon
see what other TX's are used and their good points. One thing you will need
to check is what mode is normally flown at your club, there are two choices;
mode 2, throttle/rudder on left stick; and mode 1, throttle/ailerons on
right stick. You will need yours to be the same. Most modern TX's can be
easily changed, but I'm not sure about the skysport

> 4.  If I buy new, 2.4 gh or FM?

Eventually 2.4, but wait a while. I currently have a Futaba FF9, which has a
module for the desired frequency. At the present I have a 35mhz module (UK
system) but I can easilt fit a 2.4g module if I want. The FF8 also has this
facility

> 5.  If I go with 2.4 gh, Spectrum DX-7 or Futaba 7C?

Leave it for a while, probably Futaba will come out on top

HTH

Trefor
Charles & Peggy Robinson - 20 Mar 2008 13:25 GMT
If you decide to go 2.4GHz, you might want to look at the new Airtronics
RDS8000 FHSS 2.4GHZ radio.  I have one, have flown it in a Great Planes
Super Sportster-EP. Solid link, good feel.  I had the Futaba 6EX FASST
but sold it and ordered the RDS8000.

  CR
Jim - 21 Mar 2008 00:44 GMT
I just received my Airtronics 2.4 but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I
also have a new and unused Futaba 7 ch Faast system.  I'll let you know
which one I like best when I use them. However, I have long been an
Airtronics user and LOVE their radios. I have NEVER, repeat NEVER had a
glitch from an Airtronics since I started using them in the 70's!  Can't say
the same for Futaba!

> If you decide to go 2.4GHz, you might want to look at the new Airtronics
> RDS8000 FHSS 2.4GHZ radio.  I have one, have flown it in a Great Planes
> Super Sportster-EP. Solid link, good feel.  I had the Futaba 6EX FASST but
> sold it and ordered the RDS8000.
>
>   CR
Trefor - 21 Mar 2008 21:08 GMT
Not available in the UK yet (AFAIK)
Sounds good though
Known as Sanwa here

Trefor

>I just received my Airtronics 2.4 but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I
>also have a new and unused Futaba 7 ch Faast system.  I'll let you know
 
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